Good move @Rob Hancill I have been thinking the same that the video channel could do with changing its name. Glad you changed it.
Keep up the good work
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Good move @Rob Hancill I have been thinking the same that the video channel could do with changing its name. Glad you changed it.
Keep up the good work
Am I the only one thinking differently? The forum and the YT channel could help each other grow... but it’s just me I might be wrong.
For sure will be forum references all the time, just the channel name that has changed. Been thinking about it for a long time, and got some advice from someone in the 'game' recently that strongly recommended it.
I'm going to think of it like a 'brand ambassador' role that I play in promoting the forum...
Yeah I totally get this...
This is still totally possible. In fact even more so. EMTB Forums as a YT channel is pretty generic and doesn't really have much personality, and a bit of a WTF? if you don't know what a 'forum' is used for. Forums are still very niche.
I think that the 'Rob Rides EMTB' will help people identify quicker and easier exactly what I do. More views / more opportunity and push for the forum.
Have though long and hard about it.., trust me!
Rob I mentioned EMTB Forums Youtube to the guys in the shop at Afan and got a polite nod/smile but WTF look. If you are doing Rob rides features it would be good to see something on the Trail Builders of the places that we ride. Jeff at Afan a Blasts shop knows a few of them there.
GDAS
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but if people see a video pretty much entirely taken within Chris Reilly's workshop, won't they be entitled to think "um.. I thought this channel was about some guy riding his e-mtb"? In which case, wouldn't it make more sense to call the channel "All you need to know about e-mtb'ing" [for example]
Albez
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It's more the thumbnail that grabs me, not the name. The only time I look at the name is if I want to subscribe to something and wanna check out more of the content. Stick a sexy girl in the thumbnail and the views will go through the roof.
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Why don't you keep the lightening bolt in a circle logo for both channels. that would help with branding.
I actually thought that the EMTBForum channel could end up more like Pinkbike/MBR type channel where you got more people in to do reviews, reports, technical stuff etc, and expanded it that way, a bit like you have done with the homepage of the forum.
I think what you have done is a good idea from the point of view of creating a youtube channel that is going to be easier to monetise and get subscribers, but it does feel that it will end up becoming a somewhat separate endeavour to the Forum (and there is nothing wrong with that at all).
I guess it feels like when you where doing it under the Forum name you where kind of representing all of us, with the new name its seems more like going in direction of an EMTB type McTrail rider or Paul the Punter type channel. I like that in your reviews you take the feedback from he forum of various owners into account.
However I think that one of the strongest aspects of your channel is that you are not a pro rider or journalist, and that to the average rider looking into EMTB's you really get across the the relevant things to them, as well as producing interesting and quality content, and I think renaming the channel will really help with this.
One of my favourite Youtube MTB Channels in Pinned, because I think they have a really good mix of rising, events, tech, and do it in an everyman sort of way. If you could do an EMTB version of that I think you will be on to a winner.
I think what you have done is a good idea from the point of view of creating a youtube channel that is going to be easier to monetise and get subscribers, but it does feel that it will end up becoming a somewhat separate endeavour to the Forum (and there is nothing wrong with that at all).
I guess it feels like when you where doing it under the Forum name you where kind of representing all of us, with the new name its seems more like going in direction of an EMTB type McTrail rider or Paul the Punter type channel. I like that in your reviews you take the feedback from he forum of various owners into account.
However I think that one of the strongest aspects of your channel is that you are not a pro rider or journalist, and that to the average rider looking into EMTB's you really get across the the relevant things to them, as well as producing interesting and quality content, and I think renaming the channel will really help with this.
One of my favourite Youtube MTB Channels in Pinned, because I think they have a really good mix of rising, events, tech, and do it in an everyman sort of way. If you could do an EMTB version of that I think you will be on to a winner.
I like Pinned too. But miss Stu Hughes being part of it.
Pinned = rough/raw not a criticism BTW. My only criticism of Jim's channel is it being more than a little industry sucky/cliquey.. But remember Jim's background, eh?
Rob = very polished presentation and far more honest.
Moral of the story is never trust a journo.
Pinned = rough/raw not a criticism BTW. My only criticism of Jim's channel is it being more than a little industry sucky/cliquey.. But remember Jim's background, eh?
Rob = very polished presentation and far more honest.
Moral of the story is never trust a journo.
Generally speaking, the most successful channels (and channels that are growing massively) are the 'personality' channels.
Some food for thought:
MBR: 124k subscribers. Channel started May 2008
PinkBike: 153k subscribers. Channel started June 2015
Singletrack: 7k subscribers. Channel started April 2015
Pinkbike website is very likely in decline. MBR should be on WAY more that 124k subs. Not sure why Singletrack is so low having put out 300 videos.
Seths Bike Hacks: 1.1m subscribers. Channel started Jan 2015
Skills with Phil: 241k subscribers. Channel started March 2013
BKXC: 215k Subscribers. Channel started Jan 2016
An exception is GMBN, almost at 1m subscribers, established in 2014. This is a backed by media company that is exclusively YouTube and has a huge team (30+) that work across the branded channels that they own.
Media consumption and discovery is changing. Netflix / YouTube, smart algorithms are taking the thinking away for content discovery and are getting better at finding out what we want to watch.
My goal is to make EMTB Forums the best resource of EMTB content in the world, growing as fast as possible, and I believe that the channel is a big part of that. My plan is to grow my YouTube , be the brand ambassador for EMTB Forums and promote it that way.
Everything about Singletrack is quite cliquey, often cringeworthy and although they do review brand new all round products their knowledge and experience is actually quite limited.
It can't help having a staff without a genuine all round interest in all facets of cycling and being very trend/niche led.
Plus Mark is an arrogant wank who doesn't listen to his audience. (it's ok. He says far worse about me)
Everything about Singletrack is quite cliquey, often cringeworthy and although they do review brand new all round products their knowledge and experience is actually quite limited.
It can't help having a staff without a genuine all round interest in all facets of cycling and being very trend/niche led.
Plus Mark is an arrogant wank who doesn't listen to his audience. (it's ok. He says far worse about me)
Interesting. Was very suprised to see how small it was. They are predominantly mag based I guess? Dangerous game.
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Which type is Pinned tv as its personality led but without Jim's name in the title?
He prob would do better with a different channel name.
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Seems pinned has only 5.5K, which again goes towards Robs research.
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Hmmm need to rethink my ideas for my own channel name. maybe "Lack of skills with Kangr"
Yeah. I think they're a little lost TBH. but slowly realising it. It's all a bit staid. Always has been.
l always think Jim's angle is finding a way to support his racing/riding more than world domination. Hence going with a race team type name.
highpeakrider
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I must be behind the times, I’ve never looked at the YouTube channel , only ever watched content that has been placed on the forum.
I personally wouldn’t go directly to YouTube to see what you have posted.
I use the forum site as a one stop shop for content I have more recently been going to the home page to see what new reviews have been posted then coming into the forum , i just see YouTube as providing the video functionality.
I personally wouldn’t go directly to YouTube to see what you have posted.
I use the forum site as a one stop shop for content I have more recently been going to the home page to see what new reviews have been posted then coming into the forum , i just see YouTube as providing the video functionality.
Albez
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You can change the name of the channel in the settings? I might change my name.
Yes (well, a tedious google+ linky thing, but essentially via settings).
I don't think I have ever got to the end of a Singletrack video - it's like having the life slowly sucked out of you. There was a particularly cringeworthy one a while back when Spec released the 2019 Levo; Georghia Leslie was talking through the bike, but even her boundless enthusiasm couldn't lift the mallaise emanating from the presenter. All rather embarassing.
EDIT: Here you go, get your cringe ready...
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Think I'll swerve that if you don't mind. I've read more than enough about the SuperLevo already thanks.
Chips is actually quite a good laugh IRL.
highpeakrider
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I managed 20 seconds.........
jonathan horticulturist
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The thing that I can think of is the new name would get in the way having content from other people on the forums. Like a culmination of different contributors. For example, there are several guys on here that post rider footage. From a review perspective, the guys you have doing the reviews may want in the future to do video reviews.
I have retained the EMTB Forums channel for that exact purpose
Albez
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That's because you curse, drink beer and look a bit dodgy. ?
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