Here in Canada the 2022 info is very limited. I think they will offer the same because the 2021 is a new model on 29in, the previous year it was on 27.5. With the 2021 the price is lower and it is in the shop so no maybe about the delivery date.
Interesting observation on the 500w battery on your friend's bike and your 625. I am seeing the same thing between my Haibike Full Seven, with 500wh and my Giant Trance with the 625. I lend the Haibike to friends and when we get back we are neck-and-neck for remaining battery percentage. Our trips are hard, with around 4,000 ft vertical (300ft/mile for long stretches) and 50 miles total. They require lots of pedaling. I know that I am putting as much or more effort that the riders on my other bike. I am also not seeing much additional range when I connect the 240wh booster battery. I am about to install some measurement instrumentation to watch what goes on on both bikes.
It seems you wish you had more range. Maybe you could get the habit of staying above 80 rpm.
Thanks, but I bought the Trance with 625WH main and 240WH Plus battery specifically to go farther than my Haibike with the 500w battery and similar motor on all day adventure rides. On our push mtb we sometimes do 55M/4,500ft, on road bikes we do century rides with 2500ft. On the Haibike I can squeak out 50m/4000ft with most of the altitude done on very steep sections. The Trance has a similar Yamaha motor with 73% more battery capacity, and maybe six pounds more of battery weight. I was hoping for maybe 75m/6000ft out of that combo. I spin like a mad dog when I ride the ebike and never use the smaller cogs except downhill, usually with assist turned off. I suspect some of the less than expected range is due to the Energy Plus pack running its fewer cells at the max C rate, which drastically reduces usable Watt Hours. I will find out over the winter when I instrument both bikes and look at what goes on with power consumption, usable battery capacity, watts used per GPS location, etc. Let's see where this all goes, and if just carrying an extra battery would have been the right answer.
I am not a magician but i avoid auto asist. It is a no brainer i usually play between 2 and 4 lights.
How many miles/ft are your typical rides? I tried auto mode for about 5 minutes and I don't care for it. I use level 1 and 2 mostly, with both of those set to their mid power settings, not the default full power settings. I start out on level 1 for as long as I can bear it, bumping it if I have steep climbs. Later in my rides I ride more on level 2. I use level 3 if I need to get out of a jam, whether that be a dog chasing me, busy road I need to get done with, or racing against darkness. I am a tall rider and weigh 220, and I haul another 15-20 lbs of junk typically. A rack, 3 water bottles, tools, spares, clothing layers, snacks, all add up. So my total weight on the bike is 240 lbs. I don't want to risk not having what I need to fix the bike or not having the layers if I get stuck somewhere remote.
Yeah, I am 64 too. But the rides go till either total battery or body failure. Ironically, the battery gives out first. I hope to keep it that way. On this one the batteries gave out 1/2 mile from our cars. This was probably due to my tuning settings getting reset to full power on levels 1 and 2, rather than the mid setting, and the fact that it was below freezing all day. No idea why they reset, but I noticed it at the end of the ride. I keep the bikes toasty warm till seconds before we unload them from the van and start riding. Neoprene battery/tube covers coming soon. Berkshires seemed dreamlike on account of that frostin. - Malcolm Stitt's 44.3 mi mountain bike ride
This is why ppl are asking for the app to be fixed. They e got a great platform for the money. That’s why many of us bought the bikes. Doing the app right is a matter of vision and management. It would cost them no extra money. Note that a forced firmware update in order to use the app while away on a bike vacation means many of us will not use the app at all during that period.
I don’t have an issue with the RideControl app. It updates successfully every time, and works fine for tracking equipment info and custom power settings.
Both use Yamaha motors and are reasonably similar bikes. I alternate between them and feel about the same at the end of a ride. What I’d like to know is the watt hours delivered to the motor for both bikes. The 625wh and 500wh capacity batteries may or may not deliver that full capacity to the motor depending upon battery protection.
Yep. I watch many of those parameters while riding a Levo. It provides good feedback to train me to ride efficiently on that bike and other bikes. . The BLEvo and Mission control apps provide extensive information to the rider in real time. Watching the effect of cadence vs instantaneous power is very informative, as is the human wattage to motor wattage ratio.
And the reported average wattage via ride control on my trance is like 50 watts. That is off by around 400 percent whether it is showing human power or motor power. Human power is typically 150-200watts measured with Garmin pedals, and based on a 3 hour drain down of the battery, that would be 200-250 watts average motor wattage, not 50. 50 watts average would allow me to ride for 12.5 hours.
I'd be surprised if the LBS wanted to charge you to update a bike under warranty. Give them a call and see what they say. Yes, they could tell you the total mileage and battery health.
When you say "Starting with 5 light level", does that mean battery, or assist level?
Filled battery meant 5 lights for energy left.
