Carbon Fiber Kickstand

[rydeezie]

Should ebikes have them?
Used sticks to hold up the bikes then thought a kickstand would be nice
It would have to be sleek and not get in the way while riding or cause an accident
Are there any out there?

 

[Al Boneta]

Like a kickstand that’s attached to the bike? Or one just to prop a bike up in photos?

 

[rydeezie]

Like a kickstand that’s attached to the bike? Or one just to prop a bike up in photos?

Yes, attached to the bike. I try not to lay the bike down. Most of the time i lean the rear wheel on a tree, wall or my truck. I don’t even like to lean the bar ends on anything. My 55 pound ebike is almost like a scooter lol

Probably not cool to have. Probably will get laughed at. But they would be pretty damn convenient

I noticed on Robs video for the SL he had one to prop the bike up. Not attached

 

[Andrie]

I’d like a kick stand. It’s just so darn convenient. After all these years I can’t believe no one making a good kickstand that can hide into the frame or something.

 

[Al Boneta]

Kickstands on bikes that are used on technical trails are inherently dangerous.
The kickstand can open unexpectedly and strike the ground causing you to crash.
If you crash with the kickstand open, you could impale yourself on it.
Also you could get laughed at.

 

[urastus]

Your bike will fall over with a kick stand - they always do. It's a percentage question really. Fall over 10% of the time or 20% - that sort of thing. I learnt that when I was a kid. Personally I lie the bike down disc side, or lean it against something with handbrake applied. Handbrake is a strong rubber band that I leave on the bar - takes about 15" to apply.

 

[STATO]

I used a click stand (with 'handbrake' as described by poster above) when touring with multiple panniers. Made fitting/removing them or stopping for a break a ton easier when on the road as you didnt always have something big enough or positioned suitably to lean a loaded tourer against.

http://www.click-stand.com/

For eMTB though? no, just lay it down. Youll cause more damage dropping it once than laying it down a hundred times. If damaging your grip is a concern, you can get metal bar end caps.

 

[Jackware]

For eMTB though? no, just lay it down. Youll cause more damage dropping it once than laying it down a hundred times. If damaging your grip is a concern, you can get metal bar end caps.

I'm guessing @rydeezie doesn't like photographing sticks?

 

[Philly G]

lean it against something with handbrake applied. Handbrake is a strong rubber band that I leave on the bar - takes about 15" to apply.

Brilliant idea! And so obvious! That will help keep my bike still for photos

 

[rydeezie]

Kickstands on bikes that are used on technical trails are inherently dangerous.
The kickstand can open unexpectedly and strike the ground causing you to crash.
If you crash with the kickstand open, you could impale yourself on it.
Also you could get laughed at.

Well yes i did say it would have to be something that wouldn’t cause an accident like for dirtbikes. Maybe someone could invent a bash guard that would act as a kickstand as well. Or maybe a self balancing bike like how honda did for a motorcycle lol

 

[rydeezie]

I'm guessing @rydeezie doesn't like photographing sticks?

Not every trail has them

 

[rydeezie]

I used a click stand (with 'handbrake' as described by poster above) when touring with multiple panniers. Made fitting/removing them or stopping for a break a ton easier when on the road as you didnt always have something big enough or positioned suitably to lean a loaded tourer against.

http://www.click-stand.com/

For eMTB though? no, just lay it down. Youll cause more damage dropping it once than laying it down a hundred times. If damaging your grip is a concern, you can get metal bar end caps.

That looks convenient

I’ll lay down the bike if i have to. I’m thinking convenience wise. it would be nice to easily be able to park the bike especially when with a large group where space is limited

 

[rydeezie]

Your bike will fall over with a kick stand - they always do. It's a percentage question really. Fall over 10% of the time or 20% - that sort of thing. I learnt that when I was a kid. Personally I lie the bike down disc side, or lean it against something with handbrake applied. Handbrake is a strong rubber band that I leave on the bar - takes about 15" to apply.

True
Probably wouldn’t work to park on off camber single track as well
Different terrain and scenarios
So many variables lol

 

[rydeezie]

I’d like a kick stand. It’s just so darn convenient. After all these years I can’t believe no one making a good kickstand that can hide into the frame or something.

I agree
It would have to be a good one
Sleek and hidden
Doesn’t move around when riding so no accidents
Perhaps integrated inside frame
Not much weight penalty

i rode ebikes in Japan and having a kickstand was convenient. Every bike had them. Maybe shimano can make an XTR or Saint kickstand

ebike manufacturers should develop and include it as an option

 

[STATO]

ebikes yes, stands on city bikes should be mandatory, as should mudguards and baskets. So Much Utility!!!!

eMTB no (for me), when are you stopped anywhere ground is level enough to use a kickstand and not have the bike balanced precariously, I know this as i stupidly used to take my city bike offroad a lot, and the kickstand was useless and just made a lot of noise

 

[rydeezie]

ebikes yes, stands on city bikes should be mandatory, as should mudguards and baskets. So Much Utility!!!!

eMTB no (for me), when are you stopped anywhere ground is level enough to use a kickstand and not have the bike balanced precariously, I know this as i stupidly used to take my city bike offroad a lot, and the kickstand was useless and just made a lot of noise

the stand would probably sink in loamy dirt and bike would fall over anyways
good point

No for emtb for me right now as well. Until a perfect one is made that addresses all or most of the issues then i would reconsider

Someone could make some $$$ inventing a good integrated stand for full suspension emtb's

 

[Beekeeper]

2 nights ago, we went for an evening ride.
wife said attach the kick stands please as we may stop by a pub on the way.
I attached the kick stands but forgot to tighten the bolts on one of them. Wife still hasn’t spoken to me since.

 

[rydeezie]

2 nights ago, we went for an evening ride.
wife said attach the kick stands please as we may stop by a pub on the way.
I attached the kick stands but forgot to tighten the bolts on one of them. Wife still hasn’t spoken to me since.

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great example of 1 bike taking up space and another neatly parked

 

[KeithR]

great example of 1 bike taking up space and another neatly parked

Or: great example of a downside of kick stands?

It would be no trouble at all to have both of those bikes "neatly parked" by leaning them against the hedge.

 

[Beekeeper]

Or: great example of a downside of kick stands?

It would be no trouble at all to have both of those bikes "neatly parked" by leaning them against the hedge.

we were the only ones there at the time but propping up against the hedge would have been the way forward I agree. Lesson learned

 

[rydeezie]

Or: great example of a downside of kick stands?

It would be no trouble at all to have both of those bikes "neatly parked" by leaning them against the hedge.

i understand the pros and cons
just seeing if there is a more modern updated solution out there
in a scenario with 6 bikes there would not be enough hedge space, but would fit in that space if they had kickstands

 

[KeithR]

I'm guessing @rydeezie doesn't like photographing sticks?

Problem solved:

 

[rydeezie]

Problem solved:
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ooh thank you!
i'm saving this pic

invisible kickstand!!

 

[Beekeeper]

Problem solved:
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That’s magic. I can’t see any sticks

 

[rydeezie]

That’s magic. I can’t see any sticks

it's the new invisistand

 

[KeithR]

They've got such a low COG that they stand up all by themselves..!

 

[KennyB]

i understand the pros and cons
just seeing if there is a more modern updated solution out there
in a scenario with 6 bikes there would not be enough hedge space, but would fit in that space if they had kickstands

Like dominoes?

 

[KeithR]

Like dominoes?

 

[KeithR]

just seeing if there is a more modern updated solution out there
in a scenario with 6 bikes there would not be enough hedge space, but would fit in that space if they had kickstands

Solution Looking For A Problem

Ever seen a product or service and thought, "Who'd want that?!?” I have. Like websites offering to take care of your pets after the apocalypse, or the goldfish walker. 42% of businesses fail due to “No Market Need.” If there isn’t a significant problem you are solving, the market doesn’t need it.

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You need to start with the problem, not the perceived solution.

I know this is just a bit of fun, but strikes me that you're coming up with some pretty contrived and unlikely scenarios in order to then justify a need for a "modern updated" solution to them.

 

[rydeezie]

Solution Looking For A Problem

Ever seen a product or service and thought, "Who'd want that?!?” I have. Like websites offering to take care of your pets after the apocalypse, or the goldfish walker. 42% of businesses fail due to “No Market Need.” If there isn’t a significant problem you are solving, the market doesn’t need it.

www.forbes.com

I know this is just a bit of fun, but strikes me that you're coming up with some pretty contrived and unlikely scenarios in order to then justify a need for a "modern updated" solution to them.

lol
Just came across a few instances where i thought it would be convenient if my bike could just be parked standing on it's own