2020 Trek Rail??

[Will Ridealpine]

Thats a great article on the trek Rail. I rode a 2019 specialized levo expert and it was very loud, they replaced the motor and did so on whoever said they wanted it it seemed. Is this new bosch cx motor as loud as the brose on the levo? Is it much louder than the last years bosch? How noisy is the Bosch???

 

[Erider]

Thats a great article on the trek Rail. I rode a 2019 specialized levo expert and it was very loud, they replaced the motor and did so on whoever said they wanted it it seemed. Is this new bosch cx motor as loud as the brose on the levo? Is it much louder than the last years bosch? How noisy is the Bosch???

It is noisy going steep uphill in high cadance, but on the trail it is way less noisy then the old one.

 

[Tribey]

Rail electric mountain bikes | Trek Bikes (GB)

 

[Will Ridealpine]

It is noisy going steep uphill in high cadance, but on the trail it is way less noisy then the old one.

Nice. The writers that wrote the articles recently on the bike should have said its quieter than the previous model. One in fact said it’s louder. A bike shop said it’s quieter. Wonder if anyone else has tested it that’s reading this?

 

[Will Ridealpine]

It is noisy going steep uphill in high cadance, but on the trail it is way less noisy then the old one.

Wonder how the new Rail is compared to the Levo, shorter chain stays and bottom bracket better handling? Quieter than a 2019 Levo?

 

[Tribey]

Nice. The writers that wrote the articles recently on the bike should have said its quieter than the previous model. One in fact said it’s louder. A bike shop said it’s quieter. Wonder if anyone else has tested it that’s reading this?

I've ridden the Whyte with Gen4 Bosche motor, and thought it quiet.

 

[Will Ridealpine]

I've ridden the Whyte with Gen4 Bosche motor, and thought it quiet.

Sounds good. Heard someone else say it’s quiet also. Maybe more quiet than last years?

 

[Tribey]

Yes, I thought it was quieter than a FS5 with the previous Gen Bosch motor that I rode last month.

 

[R120]

Has it been released? I thought it wasn't until 4pm CEST today?

Great review as usual - seems like they have come up with a winner, and the weight is impressive given the specs.

 

[Doomanic]

Mine was about 22.5kg, size M. A preproduction bike with the right equipment. It's mentioned in the video above

Carbon?

 

[Will Ridealpine]

Yes, I thought it was quieter than a FS5 with the previous Gen Bosch motor that I rode last month.

Thats good. It must be more quiet than a Levo. What do you think?

 

[Doomanic]

Thats good. It must be more quiet than a Levo. What do you think?

Unlikely.
The Brose is the quietest motor at the moment, far quieter than my Gen 3 Performance CX.

I'll be test-riding a Whyte next weekend so I'll know more then.

 

[ryturn]

these boys think its pretty good

 

[Will Ridealpine]

Unlikely.
The Brose is the quietest motor at the moment, far quieter than my Gen 3 Performance CX.

I'll be test-riding a Whyte next weekend so I'll know more then.

The brose on the 2019 levo expert sounded louder than the hiabike yamaha or bosch until specialized replaced it then it sounded about the same. Wonder if the new bosch is quiter like some say...

 

[Tribey]

Doesn't the Brose run with a rubber toothed belt, whilst the Bosch has meshing gears. It's the gears that whine a bit.
I was happy with the level of Gen4 motor noise on the Whyte, on a short road test.
I've booked onto a Whyte demo day, so I will see how it sounds on an uphill trail climb.

 

[Doomanic]

Unlikely.
The Brose is the quietest motor at the moment, far quieter than my Gen 3 Performance CX.

I'll be test-riding a Whyte next weekend so I'll know more then.

The brose on the 2019 levo expert sounded louder than the hiabike yamaha or bosch until specialized replaced it then it sounded about the same. Wonder if the new bosch is quiter like some say...

I never heard one of the noisy Brose motors before they were replaced.

The only time that be heard a Brose motor make as much noise as my Bosch or my mates Shimano was when the Brose was fucked.

 

[knut7]

Carbon?

Yeah, both front and rear triangle, and handlebars it seems.

 

[Foxy87]

Today is the Big Day!!
Trek have released the all new Rail.
I've had the privilege to testride this awesome bike for the last three weeks and will keep testing it until I get my own in a month?
? Him self Tony Ottesen? Location: Fyns Hoved. Denmark
@trekbikesdenmark #ridelikeabosch
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Hey

Is ther any chance you could do me a favour and measure the diameter (or lets say the thickness) of the downtube? Would really appreciate because I want to know If I can install Mac Ride to go on rides with my son.

If I am lucky I will get mine (9.8 black) in October!

Thanks a lot!

 

[Erider]

Hey

Is ther any chance you could do me a favour and measure the diameter (or lets say the thickness) of the downtube? Would really appreciate because I want to know If I can install Mac Ride to go on rides with my son.

If I am lucky I will get mine (9.8 black) in October!

Thanks a lot!

94 mm

 

[MattyB]

Doesn't the Brose run with a rubber toothed belt, whilst the Bosch has meshing gears. It's the gears that whine a bit.
I was happy with the level of Gen4 motor noise on the Whyte, on a short road test.

Yep, it's those gears that whine a bit but for me it was perfectly acceptable - I rode one in a Focus Thron at the w/e and it was just a slightly higher pitched whine than the old one, but not louder. For me it's somewhat of a non-issue comparing it to the quieter Brose, since that motor has provide itself probably the least reliable out there to date (I know 5 people with Levos who have had a cumulative 7 motor replacements under warranty).

 

[Foxy87]

94 mm

Great thank you! Considering Mac Ride has 100mm of space with the ebike adapter, it definitely will fit. It will be tight though with just 3mm gap on each side but I will put on some tape on the frame spots there to prevent it from getting scratched!

Thanks man

 

[Erider]

Great thank you! Considering Mac Ride has 100mm of space with the ebike adapter, it definitely will fit. It will be tight though with just 3mm gap on each side but I will put on some tape on the frame spots there to prevent it from getting scratched!

Thanks man

No worries ?

 

[Will Ridealpine]

Yes, I thought it was quieter than a FS5 with the previous Gen Bosch motor that I rode last month.

Rad

 

[Will Ridealpine]

Yep, it's those gears that whine a bit but for me it was perfectly acceptable - I rode one in a Focus Thron at the w/e and it was just a slightly higher pitched whine than the old one, but not louder. For me it's somewhat of a non-issue comparing it to the quieter Brose, since that motor has provide itself probably the least reliable out there to date (I know 5 people with Levos who have had a cumulative 7 motor replacements under warranty).

Yep add me to the list. They replaced the 2019 levo motor. Would you rather have the new trek rail 9.7, a new kenevo or the cannondale montero se?

 

[Doomanic]

I rode 2 bikes with the new Bosch motor today.

It's quieter than the old motor but louder than the Levo.

Somewhat disconcerting was the fact that the three bikes that were out on the Demo with me all sounded different. One of them sounded so bad that I'd be looking for a replacement motor.

 

[MattyB]

Yep add me to the list. They replaced the 2019 levo motor. Would you rather have the new trek rail 9.7, a new kenevo or the cannondale montero se?

Of those three probably the Trek, but I still wouldn’t buy a carbon one as it’s both expensive and has ugly colours when compared to the Whyte. The alloy Rails are better value and seem more comparable in spec. I would never buy a Brose motored bike until they can improve their reliability significantly.

 

[Will Ridealpine]

Hey

Is ther any chance you could do me a favour and measure the diameter (or lets say the thickness) of the downtube? Would really appreciate because I want to know If I can install Mac Ride to go on rides with my son.

If I am lucky I will get mine (9.8 black) in October!

Thanks a lot!

Pictures please... Is it loud? Like it more than a cannondale montera se with boxxer?

 

[Tribey]

Doesn't the Brose run with a rubber toothed belt, whilst the Bosch has meshing gears. It's the gears that whine a bit.
I was happy with the level of Gen4 motor noise on the Whyte, on a short road test.
I've booked onto a Whyte demo day, so I will see how it sounds on an uphill trail climb.

Yep, I rode the Whyte today, and motor noise is not an issue for me.
Now to decide e-150rs or Rail??

 

[Rawry]

Yep, I rode the Whyte today, and motor noise is not an issue for me.
Now to decide e-150rs or Rail??

let me know i am thinking along the same lines.

 

[Tribey]

There's not much gap between the chain and chainstay when in a high gear, I wonder if this will result in alot of noisey slap when decending. That would drive me crazy.
I think I'll go Whyte.