The Velduro Rogue is a 170/165 mullet enduro bike from a NZ/China direct brand, sold frameset-first around an i-track-licensed mid-high pivot with a swingarm idler. The first customer bikes arrived in late December 2025 with the DJI Avinox M1, and the same frame has shipped with the Avinox M2S from around April 2026 (the UK batch onward).
✓Most owners report no problems. The clusters below are the minority who hit something: every count is distinct owners, and every claim links to the post it came from.
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Every major motor and popular bike has one of these: known issues with reporter counts, the used-buyer checklist, setup consensus and the fixes owners found, all drawn from this forum’s own posts and refreshed every month.
Six months in, the Rogue's hardware record is clean and the ride reviews are rapturous; the recurring story is friction around the bike, not in it: a shock-fitment minefield created by the charging port, a motor-mount creak that the supplied shims silence, a geometry chart that doesn't match a tape measure, slow batch logistics, and the M1-to-M2S supersession that burned the brand's most loyal pre-order customers.
Buy the frame for the suspension - budget patience for the company.
If you’re buying
SHOCK FIT: Frameset buyers - run your exact shock (and 12A charger plans) against the official fitment doc before paying - the port placement has stranded multiple nearly-new shocks
FLIP CHIP: Check the chip is installed matching function, not just the printed label - two of the first documented frames arrived swapped
SIZING: Size by reach and your own measurements, not the chart wheelbase - the chart reads sagged and the L/XL rear-centre is short for the front-centre
MOTOR: M2S-era bikes are the ones shipping now; used M1 bikes will carry the supersession discount - the M1 remains an excellent, supported motor (see the DJI Avinox M1 owners' report)
DELIVERY: Expect batch logistics - order-to-delivery has run 3-8 months and UK restock dates have slipped
The short version
Setup consensus
Real setups from verified owners, using first-person own-bike reports only.
Most owners convert; the leverage curve suits a coil. Rates settle at 500-575 lb from 88 to 100 kg.
Check shock fitment first
The charging port blocks many piggyback shocks. It is 205x65 trunnion only; Velduro publish an official fitment list.
Progressive chip wins converts
The PRO setting gives 170 mm rear travel and a bottomless feel. Verify by hole position: some chips left the factory swapped.
Coil costs no weight
Complete coil builds weigh in at 23.7 kg. A Bomber CR with its spring weighs within 8 g of the stock X2.
The usable numbers
Owner-reported setup paths first. The rider-weight table underneath shows the messy detail.
32 setup riders
Setup path
Owner pattern
Typical numbers
Sample size
Stock custom-tune Fox X2205x65 trunnion · air
Ships custom-tuned for the frame and rides plush, very close to a coil. Most owners convert eventually; the air holdouts run an Ohlins TTX inline or an EXT Aria.
205x65custom tune
2 riders
Coil conversion205x65 · by rider weight
The popular endgame. Rates scale cleanly on the 65 mm stroke: 500 lb at 88 kg, 525 lb at 92 kg, 550-575 lb around 100 kg.
500-575 lbby rider weight
8 riders
Fitment check before buyingcharge port blocks piggybacks
Ohlins TTX piggyback, RockShox Super Deluxe Coil, 2024 Factory X2, Cane Creek DB coil and most EXTs do not fit. DVO Jade X, Fast Ride E, EXT e-Storia and a de-spacered DHX2 do.
205x65only size
6 riders
PRO chip, longer fork165 STD / 170 PRO
Progressive setting is winning converts for its bottomless feel; a 180 mm fork in mullet is one owner's wheelbase answer.
170 mmPRO travel
3 riders
Most cited numbers
205x65
Shock size · trunnion
550 lb
Coil spring · most cited
25 / 30 psi
Tyre pressures F / R
23.7 kg
Lightest complete build
These are owner-reported starting points, not suspension setup instructions. Aim for sag, check full travel, then adjust to terrain and riding style.
The evidence · detailed owner data14 riders at stated weights · per-band numbers with post links
192-198lb · ended on a 500lb spring · 23.7kg complete · Gravity Radials 25 psi F / 30 R#645149#667746#654761
97-102 kg6 riders
214-225lb · DVO Jade X Prime 205x65 on a 550lb spring · supplied 575lb sagged only ~17mm · ordered a 550 to try#642586#667862#663649
105 kg+1 rider
231lb+ · 'The M2S motor hauls my 105kg almost up anything · zizajaun self-described at 110kg shopping for spring rate#687557#667347#658577
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Drawn from 83 first-person posts with concrete setup numbers from 32 members; strong for a bike this young, because frameset buyers discuss builds obsessively. The spring-rate picture is the clearest signal: at dyno-checked or calculator-derived weights, riders run roughly 500lb at ~88kg, 525lb at ~92kg and 550-575lb at ~100kg on a 65mm-stroke coil.
Field notes
What owners learned after the setup numbers
Practical lessons that kept appearing across owner reports. These are not full setup charts, they are the real-world wrinkles people found after living with the bike.
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Spring rate
22 reports cited
Consensus: Coil conversion is the destination - 'invest in a custom tuned coil
Coil conversion is the destination - 'invest in a custom tuned coil, the leverage ratio is nirvana on the Velduro for a coil'. Documented coil builds: STI A-Kit, Ohlins TTX22m.2 (inline only - see fitment), Fast Ride E, Fast Suspension 550 lb, DVO Jade X 550 lb at 102kg, EXT e-Storia. Supply gotcha: NZ suspension channels reported an 11-MONTH backlog on 450-500 lb springs - Sprindex and Eibach were the workarounds.
Coil forks followed: Smashpot-converted 38 at 170mm 'so nice... more composed than the 180mm Zeb', Smashpot v2 in an Ohlins RXF38 'butter'. The frame ships with a Velduro-custom-tuned Fox Float X2 205x65. One full build sheet exists gram-by-gram: sethimus's Intend Flash fork + Fast Suspension 550 lb coil build, itemised down to the valves.
And the coil-weight myth, busted with a scale: a Bomber CR with a 500 lb spring weighs 771g against 763g for the X2 in the same size - 'no difference really'. As more bikes landed a spring-rate-by-weight picture firmed up on the 65mm-stroke coil: 500lb at 88kg (Taxi Man dynoed, Rob ~26% sag); 525lb suggested at ~92kg (DMR Dave); and 550-575lb around 100kg (Mikects on a Jade X, cozzy's supplied 575 sagging only ~27% so he dropped to a 550, calculators pointing nearer 600). Telum specced a lighter 425lb for a 90kg rider, the outlier in the set.
Verify your shock against the official fitment doc BEFORE buying the frameset - the charging port has stranded multiple nearly-new shocks (a 1k-GBP TTX22m.2 piggyback among them); the DHX2 205x60-to-65 spacer-removal trick is the cheapest path to a fitting coil
Budget drivetrain works: mechanical XT 10/45 Linkglide for NZ$367 - 'works extremely well... invest the savings in a custom tuned coil'
Consensus: THE defining constraint - the charging-port placement under the shock blocks many piggyback/large-can shocks
THE defining constraint - the charging-port placement under the shock blocks many piggyback/large-can shocks, and Velduro published an official fitment document in Nov 2025.
Confirmed NOT to fit: Ohlins TTX22m.2 piggyback (inline version fits after a ~1k-GBP owner's head-swap saga), RockShox Super Deluxe Coil (per Suspension Tech International), 2024 Fox Factory X2, EXT Arma/Vecta/Storia - 'only the e-storia would fit anyway' per Mojo, Cane Creek DB coil, Vivid Air officially (one owner physically cleared a 205x65 Vivid on a Large with ~7.5mm beyond the recommendation but 'wouldn't feel confident sending it').
Anything 230x65 is out - it's 205x65 trunnion.
Workaround: the 2026 Fox DHX2 205x60 trunnion carries 2x2.5mm spacers - remove them for 205x65, plus 2x M3 6mm screws.
Confirmed fits: stock custom-tune X2, DHX2 (modded), DVO Jade X, Fast Ride E, STI A-Kit, EXT e-Storia.
Consensus: 181cm: ordered Medium, switched to Large pre-delivery - 'I'd strongly recommend the Large' with a 32mm stem
181cm: ordered Medium, switched to Large pre-delivery - 'I'd strongly recommend the Large' with a 32mm stem; 5'11" Muff1tt also Large; 167cm slickrock ordered Small; 198cm/102kg Mikects XL; 6'5" pobster XL full-29
The Medium counter-case at 178cm: 'went with the medium and put on a 50mm stem. Bike is the perfect fit for me and glad I didn't go with the large which is what I initialy ordered'; another M rider sized his stem from 35 to 50mm because the longer stem 'quiets down the front end itchiness'
Rob (a habitual XL rider) found the Large smaller than the chart suggests and repeatedly noted having to weight the front - 'Large is just too small for rob' was the community read
The 437-440mm chainstay on L/XL is the geometry debate: alarm for some ('my alarm bells are ringing', 'XL geo looks awful - 515r and 440cs is a recipe for washing the front') but owners at L size report no problem - 'I honestly would not want a longer CS for myself'
Seat tube is 31.6mm with huge insertion: Rob runs a 240mm OneUp V3, Mikects a 210 OneUp on XL - 'Excellent seatpost insertion depth'. 34mm-diameter droppers do not fit
Real weights: 23.7kg (L, coil, complete); 23.7kg with pedals (L, carbon rims); Rob's L on alloy DT wheels 23.97kg without pedals
Fork pairing: 180mm up front in mullet + progressive mode is one owner's wheelbase answer
Progressive is winning converts: 'Extremely sensitive, feeling bottomless' on an early-production test; Taxi Man returning to progressive after time in both. WATCH THE CHIP MARKINGS - they can be assembled swapped left-to-right so the text lies; mounting hole to the REAR = progressive, forward = STD.
Durrti's were swapped from the factory and so were Rob's. GEO CHART vs TAPE MEASURE: Rob's static Large measured FC 838 / CS 437 / WB 1275 / BB 352 against a published 1300mm wheelbase - 'Geo chart is quite a bit off'; cozzy's calculator agreed (M: 1255 calc vs 1265 quoted; L: 1278 vs 1300).
The chart appears to be sagged figures (CS grows ~10mm at sag). Velduro told one buyer they're 'looking at increasing L/XL CS's at a later stage'.
The tape-measure convergence continued into winter: rabitec measured CS 437mm unsagged on his Medium ('as confirmed by others including myself who measured it'), working out to ~447mm at 30% sag in mullet, while Velduro's own site states 454mm at 30% sag. Cranks: the frame ships with 155mm arms and the owners' advice is don't go longer - 'Go shorter like 150mm... you can run your suspension softer, so the bike sits deeper in the shock'; one owner runs 145mm Pinnds to sit 'more centered'.
Check the flip-chip orientation against function, not the printed text - chips can be factory-installed swapped side-to-side; hole-to-the-rear is Progressive. Two of the first documented builds (Durrti's and Rob's) arrived swapped
The small fixes, checks and setup hacks that surfaced across owner reports. Built for someone with the bike in the stand, not someone reading a 500-post megathread.
Use this section as a workshop wall
Quick checks first, source posts second. The details stay linked, but the action is obvious.
Grouped by job, not forum order
Rattles, motor noises, bearings, charge port, geometry, fork, cranks and buying checks.
Counts are owner clusters
Report badges show repeated owner evidence, not manufacturer recommendations.
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Rattle hunt
Start here before blaming the motor, shock or frame.
Check
Cable rattle prevention is assembly-time work: Run the cables through the inner guides and foam-wrap them before they exit at the head tube; the non-drive-side exit above the motor is 'a bit of janky design'. Done right, frames run silent. If the motor creaks on early rides, the motor-mount shims are the cure: one flat shim each side of the front mount sleeves the bolt hole and silences it. Note the tolerance lottery - one XL owner found the same shims too tight to fit at all - so check yours before forcing them. While you are there, seat the crank fully (2-3mm past where it looks home) and threadlock the spindle; the Avinox crank can back off even torqued to 50Nm.
Budget for the 12A fast charger early - global shortage; one UK owner grey-imported from Italy for ~270 GBP all-in while UK stock slipped to late June; NZ-sourced ones were quoted at steep prices, shop around.
Each count is a distinct owner describing the problem on their own bike, in their own words. Motor faults are tracked separately so bike-side issues do not get mixed with drive-unit history.
Issue clusters in this report
Ranked by distinct owner reporters, not total mentions.
Shock fitment blocked by the charging-port placement
Rank 01
7 independent reportersserviceablehigh confidenceshows up: at build time
The signature constraint. The under-shock charging port plus 205x65 trunnion sizing rules out a long list of popular shocks - piggyback Ohlins, RS Super Deluxe Coil, EXT Arma/Storia, 2024 Factory X2, CC DB Coil, Vivid Air (officially) - and the fitment document only landed in Nov 2025, AFTER many frameset deposits: 'Paid my deposit on a frame only on Monday and this shock document came out yesterday'.post 642056 Even the measurement instructions confused buyers (a Push VTX measuring ~70mm vs the 85.3mm requirement was still listed non-compliant).post 6417067 reports#641507#641490#642211#651919#652156#641792#655188
Fix
Official fitment doc + measure before you buypost 642056
Full detail · 9 reports cited
Everything owners reported trying
Official fitment doc + measure before you buypost 642056
DHX2 2026 205x60: remove the 2x2.5mm stroke spacers for 205x65 + shorter M3 screwspost 641792
Velduro-custom-tuned stock X2 is genuinely liked - 'felt so good downhill, very plush, like a coil'post 628686
Warranty experienceNot a warranty issue - a compatibility tax on frameset buyers.
Counting noteMuff1tt (TTX22m.2 piggyback, nearly-new, needs head swap); Mikects (2024 X2 'a definite no'; went DVO Jade X); Taxi Man (SD Coil refused by STI, went A-Kit); Durrti (EXT Arma AND Vivid Air both no - 'Having to buy a new shock to fit this frame was disappointing'); DMR Dave (CC DB coil won't fit); cozzy (Mojo: only the e-Storia of EXT's range fits; also his 230x65 shocks and 34mm droppers stranded); HunKTM (doc confusion).9 reports#642056#641507#642586#641490#642211#651919#652156#626632#641706 Alex NZ physically cleared a Vivid at his own risk.post 655188
M1-to-M2S supersession - the customer-service wound (full story in the Avinox M1 report)
Customers who pre-ordered from July 2025 and waited ~8 months took delivery in Jan-Mar 2026, then watched the SAME frame start shipping with the M2S within weeks of the 9 Apr embargo lift. 'We got the bikes on March 21 and two weeks later BANG!! M2s' - Carlosgalma, speaking for himself and 14 friends.post 689202 The complaint is not the motor, it's the silence: 'a month since their last answer with no solution', Velduro 'waiting to hear back from Avinox', owners asking only for a PAID upgrade path.3 reports#689202#689298#688708 ShaneOh! (XL, delayed repeatedly, then superseded in 3 weeks) blacked out his frame logos in protest.post 6895373 reports#689238#689499#689216
Fix
None on-record by the data cutoff - Velduro's position remained 'waiting on Avinox'post 689298
Full detail · 7 reports cited
Everything owners reported trying
None on-record by the data cutoff - Velduro's position remained 'waiting on Avinox'post 689298
Buying timing: slickrock's self-imposed 5-month wait through Sea Otter got him an M2S-era bikepost 689337
Warranty experienceNot warranty - product-cycle and comms. The M1 remains supported under its own warranty.post 689216
Counting noteMotorDoper, Carlosgalma (+14 friends), Dr Shreds, ShaneOh!.5 reports#688708#689202#689238#689298#689537 Counter-voices: 'your bike is in no way obsolete', 'I think you need to build a bridge and get over it', and cozzy's context - the 9 Apr date was an open secret, 'NZ customers have been stiffed over though'.3 reports#689216#689496#689499 The full M1-fleet-wide story (no upgrade path, depreciation, Avinox yearly-cycle warnings) is counted in the Avinox M1 report, not here.
Motor-mount creak from tight frame/motor tolerances (cured by the shims)
Rank 03
4 independent reportersserviceablehigh confidenceshows up: first weeks of riding
Owners who took early delivery report a creak or 'cracking' on the first pedal strokes, traced to the tight tolerance where the motor meets the frame at the front mount. Rocketscience66 chased it for weeks with grease and tape from a Dec 2025 frame before Velduro explained the cause; nathan_dh's 'creaks badly' with bolts greased and torqued to spec, no shims fitted from the factory.2 reports#672570#684029 A second, separate creak source is the battery bolts: the top bolt under the screen and the lower bolt near the bottom of the down tube can work loose and make 'a horrible cracking noise' until nipped up.post 6950385 reports#672745#673205#684414#680893#656030
Fix
Fit the motor-mount shims snug (one flat, non-top-hat shim each side of the front mount) - it sleeves the bolt hole and silenced multiple frames2 reports#672745#684414
Full detail · 8 reports cited
Everything owners reported trying
Fit the motor-mount shims snug (one flat, non-top-hat shim each side of the front mount) - it sleeves the bolt hole and silenced multiple frames2 reports#672745#684414
A small amount of epoxy on the inside, then re-check idler alignmentpost 673205
Seat the crank fully (2-3mm past where it looks home) and threadlock the spindle - the Avinox crank backs off even at 50Nmpost 680893
Nip up the top and lower battery bolts for the loose-bolt 'crack' variantpost 695038
Warranty experienceHandled as an assembly/shim fix, not a warranty claim; later batches and dealers supplied the shims.
Counting noteRocketscience66 (Dec '25 frame, weeks of chasing); nathan_dh ('creaks badly', none fitted from factory); Taxi Man (fitted the shims with a touch of epoxy - 'uber silent now', and separately found his Avinox crank backing off at 50Nm until threadlocked); GoneRogue (one flat shim each side of the front motor mount - 'No creaking on mine'); panaphonic isolated the loose-battery-bolt variant.7 reports#672570#684029#673205#684414#680893#672745#695038 Tolerance caveat: Mikects found the spare shims would not fit his XL at all, the gap too tight for even one - so the cure depends on the individual frame.post 656030
Geometry chart vs tape measure (and the L/XL chainstay debate)
Rank 04
2 independent reportersreportedmedium confidenceshows up: at sizing/ordering
Published geometry doesn't match static measurement: Rob's Large taped at 1275mm wheelbase / 437mm CS / 838mm FC against a 1300mm chart, and an independent calculator reconstruction found the same direction of error - the chart appears to be at-sag (the mid-high pivot grows the CS ~10mm at sag).2 reports#644037#643092 Downstream effect: buyers sizing off the chart got a smaller-feeling bike than expected (Rob, a habitual XL rider, found the L small and front-light), and the short-for-reach 437-440mm rear centre on L/XL became the standing critique.4 reports#646455#647123#650095#6470562 reports#647998#648377
Fix
Size by your own reach comparison, not the chart wheelbase; if between sizes and tall, the threads say go Large at 181cm but think hard above ~190cm2 reports#654761#647123
Full detail · 8 reports cited
Everything owners reported trying
Size by your own reach comparison, not the chart wheelbase; if between sizes and tall, the threads say go Large at 181cm but think hard above ~190cm2 reports#654761#647123
MX rear + chip games adjust the balancepost 648213
Warranty experiencen/a
Counting noteRob (static measurements); cozzy (calculator cross-check, M and L).2 reports#644037#643092 Brand response: Velduro told Filth_88 they are 'looking at increasing L/XL CS's at a later stage'.post 647998 Counter-evidence from owners at size: 'The rear end is on another level and the geo feels absolutely perfect. I honestly would not want a longer CS' (Taxi Man, L, 181cm, Strava PBs); Muff1tt (L) 'geo is spot on for my preference'.2 reports#648377#687388
Pre-delivery brand communication wobbles (M1-era, 2025)
Before any bike shipped, the brand's forum presence over-promised: dual-crown approval and CAT5 certification were stated, then formally walked back - 'some of the information shared was premature... until the independent certification process is formally completed, we cannot officially endorse the use of dual-crown forks'.post 635769 A 'public mold' accusation cycle (via a Kross co-branding episode) forced an official origin statement.post 639555 The UK distributor 'leaked more information than they should have'.post 689499post 646949
Fix
Verified updates now funnelled through Velduro UK / velduro.co.ukpost 635769
Full detail · 4 reports cited
Warranty experienceWatch item: dual-crown use remained unendorsed pending certification at the data cutoff.2 reports#635769#644253
Counting noteVelduro UK's own retraction post and the official Facebook statement reposted by cozzy are primary documents; community reaction throughout the thread.2 reports#635769#639555 One buyer pulled his AUD$8,800 pre-order partly to 'view the buying experience that people are going through in this thread'.2 reports#646949#646339
M2S-era early niggles (UK batch, May 2026)
Rank 06
2 independent reportersserviceablemedium confidenceshows up: first month of UK ownership
First UK owners' cons list: cable rattle if assembly skips the inner guides and foam; the rubber charging-port cover is 'a pretty poor design and I suspect will fail over time' (two owners agree); the plastic motor guard is 'made of cheese...post 687557 I've already smashed one'.post 687557 Supply-side: the 12A fast charger is in global shortage and the next UK shipment slipped from mid-May to late June (Suez/component excuses, orders placed back in January).2 reports#687231#686232
Fix
Foam the cables at the head tube during buildpost 687557
Full detail · 3 reports cited
Everything owners reported trying
Foam the cables at the head tube during buildpost 687557
Fit motor-area protection if you ride rockpost 687557
Source the 12A charger from EU dealers if UK/NZ stock is drypost 687231
Warranty experienceNothing claimed yet; the port-cover is a watch item.
Counting notepobster (XL M2S, Lake District - the cons list); cozzy (charger shortage, grey-import receipts); Velduro UK on the delay.3 reports#687557#687231#686232 Echoes the motor-guard brittleness pattern seen on every Avinox bike in this tranche.
Owner counterweight
The other side of the ledger
Trouble-free and love-letter reports from the same owners. These stop the issue list becoming a doomscroll.
✓
One-month/500km review at 88kg: 23.7kg complete with coil, 2,000m of vert achievable in Eco - 'this is the most fun mountain bike I've ever owned' from a previously anti-eBike riderpost 654761
✓
'I thought my Crestline was the best rear suspension ever, until I rode this. This bike is supple, nimble, poppy and fast' - frameset builder, ex-Crestline S180post 642211
✓
Same components transferred from an Orbea Wild, only the frame changed: 'It smashes through tech lines like they are just a suggestion... faster than my Orbea wild and it's definitely the frame'post 687388
✓
Ride 3: 'This bike absolutely rips... I set Strava PBs everywhere up and down' including a local-hill KOM attemptpost 648377
✓
M2S-era XL at 105kg: 'this bike is an absolute weapon' - build quality 'excellent', easy to work on, no proprietary toolspost 687557
✓
Head-to-head with a Crestline on hard tech laps: 'they are pretty damn similar capability wise. Either one a worthy AF choice' - at roughly half the moneypost 650244
✓
Owner who left Orbea after three cracked Wild frames chose the Rogue as his exit - and is delightedpost 650580
✓
Three-week M2S-era report (Large, Fox DHX2 coil, 24.8kg, 12 rides / 283km / 15,789m of climbing): a self-described 'Average Joe' coming off a Giant Reign E+ finds it lively and composed on alpine singletrackpost 695415
✓
360-mile M2S-era Large mullet write-up: built frameset-up from Velduro UK on the owner's own tested components, 'just that stoked on the bike I wanna share' - posted unpaid and explicitly not AI-writtenpost 692480
Used-buyer checklist
Read this next to the bike
A screenshot-friendly inspection card. Every line traces back to the issue clusters and field notes above, and the card carries its own date stamp.
Used-buyer checklistEMTB Forums · Owners’ report
Velduro Rogue · driveway inspection
Shock fitment blocked by the charging-port placementShows up: at build time. Official fitment doc + measure before you buy.
Geometry chart vs tape measureShows up: at sizing/ordering. Size by your own reach comparison, not the chart wheelbase.
M1-to-M2S supersessionShows up: April-May 2026. None on-record by the data cutoff - Velduro's position remained 'waiting on Avinox'.
Pre-delivery brand communication wobblesShows up: Oct-Nov 2025 (pre-delivery). Verified updates now funnelled through Velduro UK / velduro.co.uk.
M2S-era early nigglesShows up: first month of UK ownership. Foam the cables at the head tube during build.
Motor-mount creak from tight frame/motor tolerancesShows up: first weeks of riding. Fit the motor-mount shims snug (one flat, non-top-hat shim each side of the front mount).
Motor warranty paperworkAlex NZ's EXT Aria shock went through warranty once - handled, no drama reported.
Data through 10 Jun 2026emtbforums.com
Generation notes
Which year is which bike
A short timeline to stop M1-era and M2S-era owner reports being mashed together.
M1-ERA
announce May 2025pre-orders from Jul 2025NZ first deliveries late Nov-Dec 2025then Jan-Mar 2026
The early bulk of the 2,176-post main thread is this era - kinematics theory, the geo-chart argument, shock-fitment triage, and finally euphoric first rides. Pricing was the hook: NZ$8,500-class frameset (~US$5k pre-tariff), AUD$8,800 with the custom X2 - 'literally < half the cost' of comparable boutiques.3 reports#624745#646339#632410
Certification/dual-crown walk-back Oct 2025; Kross 'public mold' statement.2 reports#635769#639555
M2S-ERA
from ~9 Apr 2026
Same frame, M2S drive (150Nm boost, up to 1300W on the 800Wh pack); UK batch landed Apr-May 2026 (UK Owners thread, pobster/Muff1tt/Donald.m/Sorinok/cozzy), next batch slipped to late June.post 686232 The supersession turned the M1 thread into a customer-service story (see issues; full accounting in the Avinox M1 report).
IN THE PIPELINE
Vandal prototype all-mountain (152mm, slimmer frame, flip chips) shown at China Cycle Expo May 2026 - one ownerpost 686784
Fixes the 2 issues I have with the otherwise stellar Rogue, weight and downtube size
; a Phantom gravel frameset with Avinox also exists.2 reports#686870#697641 A Long Term Review article published on this forum May 2026 (thread 46867).post 688846
This timeline is here to protect the report from false mixing. Same frame does not always mean same ownership era, especially where drive-unit supply, support route and customer communication changed.
Questions owners actually ask
Is the Velduro Rogue reliable?
Too young for a verdict (first deliveries were late Dec 2025), but the first six months are clean: no frame failures, no warranty denials, no electrical faults in 2,416 posts. The documented problems are assembly and logistics: shock fitment around the charging port, a motor-mount creak that the shims cure, a mis-stated geo chart, mislabelled flip chips, and slow batches.
Which shocks fit the Rogue?
It's 205x65 trunnion and the charging port kills many options. Confirmed fits: the stock Velduro-tuned Fox Float X2, 2026 DHX2 (205x60 with stroke spacers removed), DVO Jade X, EXT e-Storia, Fast Ride E, STI A-Kit. Confirmed NOT to fit: piggyback Ohlins TTX22m.2, RS Super Deluxe Coil, EXT Arma/Storia, 2024 Factory X2, CC DB Coil, and officially the Vivid Air. Check Velduro's fitment document before buying anything.
M1 or M2S Rogue - does it matter?
Same frame. M1-era bikes (delivered Dec 2025-Mar 2026) carry the older motor and the supersession discount; M2S-era bikes ship from Apr 2026. There is no factory upgrade path - the forum's sorest subject - but the M1 stays supported and the Rogue's mid-high-pivot layout is one of the quieter Avinox hosts either way.
What does the Rogue actually cost and weigh?
Frameset pricing landed around NZ$8,500 / AUD$8,800 with the custom-tuned X2 - roughly half comparable boutique money, which is why the thread calls it the value play. Documented complete builds: 23.7kg with coil at Large, 23.97kg without pedals on alloy wheels.
What goes wrong most often on the Velduro Rogue?
The most-reported cluster is Shock fitment blocked by the charging-port placement (7 independent reporters). The signature constraint. After that: M1-to-M2S supersession - the customer-service wound (full story in the Avinox M1 report) (4) and Motor-mount creak from tight frame/motor tolerances (cured by the shims) (4).
How are warranty claims handled?
Not a warranty issue - a compatibility tax on frameset buyers.
Own one? Every count on this page started life as a post like yours; corrections and counter-examples are how this report stays honest.
How to read this page: methodology & honest limits
Everything above is drawn from owner posts on emtbforums.com: 657,260 emtbforums.com posts read (to 2026-02-04) plus the newest posts through June 2026; bike window 2025-05-09 (thread launch) to 2026-06-10. Last updated 2026-06-12.. Forum posts over-represent problems: owners with a fault post repeatedly, satisfied owners mostly post once or never. Nothing on this page is a failure rate. There is no denominator of total owners. Counts are distinct members describing a problem first-hand, the most conservative number we can extract, and every one links to the underlying post.
Latest sweep: 2026-02-05 to 2026-06-10: 935 posts. The bikes-in-hand period. Content: the UK Owners thread launching as M2S-era bikes landed, pobster's M2S pros/cons list, the 12A-charger global shortage, the next-UK-batch delay to late June, the 'Velduro M1 Owners: Anyone else chasing an upgrade?' thread, the Vandal prototype reveal at China Cycle, a Velduro Rogue Long Term Review article thread, the motor-mount creak cluster and its shim fix, action99's three-week and Muff1tt's 360-mile M2S reviews, and a firmer spring-rate-by-weight picture as more bikes shipped.11 reports#686053#687557#687231#686232#688708#686784#688846#672570#684414#695415#692480
Full methodology & honest limits
What we read: Posts mentioning Velduro plus all posts in the Velduro-titled threads - dominated by thread 42279 (2,176 posts, May 2025 to Jun 2026), plus the UK Owners, M1-upgrade, Vandal and Long Term Review threads.4 reports#46706#46856#46731#46867 289 first-person issue-language posts from 70 members. NOTE the shape: 1,163 of 2,416 posts are from 2025, most written BEFORE bikes landed (first deliveries late Dec 2025); the 2026 half is where the ownership reports live. Rob (forum owner) is a Rogue owner; his posts are cited normally.
Counting: 179 members posted. Actual owners/builders identified with bikes in hand by the cutoff: ~25 (Taxi Man, Durrti, Muff1tt, Mikects, Alex NZ, cozzy, Rob, pobster, Donald.m, Sorinok, sethimus, Andy NZ, Carlosgalma + 14 friends he speaks for, MotorDoper, Dr Shreds, ShaneOh!, Highland Wheels, GeordieDownSouth, Rocketscience66, GoneRogue, nathan_dh, action99, panaphonic). Verified clusters: shock-fitment blocks 7+, geometry-chart discrepancy 2 measured + brand response, flip-chip mislabel 2, motor-mount creak 4 named with the shim fix, M1-supersession complaints 4 named (speaking for ~15), M2S-era niggles 2.
Very young bike: first customer deliveries late Dec 2025, so even the oldest bike had ~6 months of use at the cutoff. No durability signal exists yet - no bearing life, no frame fatigue data.
The record is still pre-order heavy at the front: 1,163 of 2,416 posts are from 2025, mostly written before anyone owned the bike. The 2026 half is where the ownership reports concentrate; this report counts only the ownership.
Rob owns a Rogue and runs this forum; his measurements and posts are first-person owner evidence and cited as such. Velduro UK posts here are brand statements, treated as primary documents not owner reports.
The M1-supersession cluster is an emotional, concentrated event involving ~15 mostly-NZ owners; it is a customer-service datapoint, not a hardware one, and its motor-side accounting lives in the Avinox M1 report.
M2S-era ownership is still young (UK bikes landed Apr-May 2026); by June there were multi-week and 360-mile reports, but the port-cover and motor-guard complaints remain early impressions.2 reports#695415#692480
Setup numbers come from 32 members, several still pre-delivery at posting; the clearest weight-banded data sits between 87kg and 105kg, with one rider each side of that range.
No frame failures, no warranty denials, and no electrical faults appear anywhere in the posts read - absence of evidence at 6 months, not evidence of absence.
