Fuel EXe Trek Fuel EXe - Trying to understand range and altitude possibilities

Mteam

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Range extender seems to be available in the UK for £450.

I say seems to be available because some shops are showing it as ' in stock'
 

mitea

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Hi all. Am based in Australia too. I have a Range Extender "kit" on order - it is (AUD) $999.99 for the Battery + $99.99 for the Cable + $19.99 for the Retention Strap. 😳
Not sure but if one has the money then maybe better buy an extra battery. I mean for longer rides you will have your backpack with you anyway and the extra 1.8kg is not that much. However you get mor Wh/$ if you buy an extra battery.
 

Free_Tibet

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Not sure but if one has the money then maybe better buy an extra battery. I mean for longer rides you will have your backpack with you anyway and the extra 1.8kg is not that much. However you get mor Wh/$ if you buy an extra battery.
I was thinking the same thing to buy a replacement main battery as I always use a backpack on major rides. But it was pointed out to me that perhaps the fitment design for the main battery wasn't really intended for continually repeated changing. But at the same time I think it is feasible - although more faffing needed when out on the track with tools and alignment etc. Also I will be travelling with my bike via airplane and the option to just use an Extender batteries could be useful.
 

Mteam

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I was thinking the same thing to buy a replacement main battery as I always use a backpack on major rides. But it was pointed out to me that perhaps the fitment design for the main battery wasn't really intended for continually repeated changing. But at the same time I think it is feasible - although more faffing needed when out on the track with tools and alignment etc. Also I will be travelling with my bike via airplane and the option to just use an Extender batteries could be useful.
Get 2 range extenders? Would probably end up at similar cost to one main battery.
 

Cell4soul

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Fun fact. Saw in some video battery labled as follows. Nominal Voltage 50.40V and 6.80ah 50.4V*6.8ah just gives about 342wh. So only about 95% of the 360wh. Looks as if TQ labled it 360wh for marketing reasons?🤷‍♂️
That would explain some of its range deficiencies vs. the Orbea Rise.
 

mitea

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That would explain some of its range deficiencies vs. the Orbea Rise.
No there is maybe a different reason...
A german bike magazin measured the orbea rise battery in the lab and they got almost 400wh.

at 11:07

So orbea is sandbagging a bit qhen they claim they "only" have 360wh battery
 

Cell4soul

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No there is maybe a different reason...
A german bike magazin measured the orbea rise battery in the lab and they got almost 400wh.

at 11:07

So orbea is sandbagging a bit qhen they claim they "only" have 360wh battery

Too bad TQ wasn’t sandbagging a bit. I am content with my EXe range, but it sure would be nice if it would get a little more range. I’ll still take the silent motor and natural feel over a little bit of range.
 

mitea

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Too bad TQ wasn’t sandbagging a bit. I am content with my EXe range, but it sure would be nice if it would get a little more range. I’ll still take the silent motor and natural feel over a little bit of range.
By the way. Keep an eye on that channel in the next days!

They told me that they are doing the same kind of extensive testing at the moment for the new TQ-HPR50 and Fazua light emtbs. Video will be out in the next days i guess.

This will be awsome since we then have the same lab tests for all the famous drivetrains for a better comparison regarding range.
 

Streddaz

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No there is maybe a different reason...
A german bike magazin measured the orbea rise battery in the lab and they got almost 400wh.

at 11:07

So orbea is sandbagging a bit qhen they claim they "only" have 360wh battery
I'd be interested to see what the difference in the battery packs are, how many cells and pack size. Orbea are doing a pretty good job keeping the overall bike weight down as they have around 1000g heavier motor as well to contend with.
 

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I went out for a ride tonight with a friend who has a rise M20, the ride was a 13.3mile loop with 1900feet climbing.

He's a few kilos lighter than me, his bike has faster rolling tyres and most importantly he's a bit fitter than me.

I finished the ride on 28% battery remaining, he finished with 35% battery remaining.

I reckon this indicates that there isn't a huge difference in efficiency of the motors .
 

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Final update regarding range from me -unless something significant changes.

Today's ride was 16 miles ,and 943m of climbing, I finished the ride with 5% battery left. As usual the ride was done using eco on the flats,mid on most of the ups, and max on the steep bits.
Settings are

Eco: 85watts max,95% assist
Mid: 210w max, 130%assist
Max : 300w max,140% assist

So I'm good with that kind of range, but the enforced power reduction to 110w when the battery gets to 10% remaining is super annoying.
 
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plastin

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Following this thread for a while. Just made a test ride today, so no messing around with settings etc. With 112kg made 620m the last climb was on boost and took 20% capacity. Came back with 6%

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Cell4soul

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Yesterday’s ride. I am fine with the range being a little less than the other mid—weight EMTB’s. I’ll trade the natural pedal feel and silent motor over the little bit of range. The bike is awesome.
This trail has a lot of tech, so I’m am sure that ate some extra battery. I finished with 17% and was using high mode frivolously at the end of the ride, when I was sure I had enough power to make it back.


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