Rail (750Wh) riding modes

[Dave_B]

My google skills are weak this morning.....

Is there are description of what each mode actually does?

 

[Stihldog]

I thought Trek/Bosch had 4 peddle assist modes? (Eco, tour, eMTB and turbo). Do you mean the amount (%) of peddle assist for each mode? I don’t think the size of the battery (625w or 750w) makes any difference on the torque available in each mode but the size of the battery does make a difference on the duration.
(ps. Doesn’t a thread usually have a few posts before it goes completely sideways? ie; backpacks).(edit; I see the post has been deleted.)
I don’t think Bosch allows the user to adjust the percentage of assist (Nyon? Maybe). But I don’t know what % each mode provides. I’m fairly satisfied with the factory settings. Maybe the new models will allow some tweaking.

 

[Stihldog]

I may have jumped the gun here but there are some threads that address the range issue for the new 750w. Cube 160tm 750w battery not impressed? What peoples thoughts on the 750w system? - EMTB Forums.

 

[Dave_B]

I thought Trek/Bosch had 4 peddle assist modes? (Eco, tour, eMTB and turbo). Do you mean the amount (%) of peddle assist for each mode? I don’t think the size of the battery (625w or 750w) makes any difference on the torque available in each mode but the size of the battery does make a difference on the duration.
(ps. Doesn’t a thread usually have a few posts before it goes completely sideways? ie; backpacks).(edit; I see the post has been deleted.)
I don’t think Bosch allows the user to adjust the percentage of assist (Nyon? Maybe). But I don’t know what % each mode provides. I’m fairly satisfied with the factory settings. Maybe the new models will allow some tweaking.

yeah, I think eMTB has some clever assist feature that adapts to user input, but was curious what Tour mode is? Is it simply a step up in assist from ECO? I’m guessing it is.?

 

[2WheelsNot4]

Eco - Pointless.
Tour - Fantastic to start, until you try Turbo.
MTB - A bit like automatic gears, the harder you pedal the more times you are rewarded with Turbo.
Turbo - Need I say more.

 

[Stihldog]

I don’t use Tour-mode very much.
Rail FS; EMTB mode. 98%of the time.
PowerFly HT; Eco mode 85% of the time.
I might have used Tour mode a couple of times on both bikes in the past 3 years. I only use Turbo mode if I’m in vehicle traffic …which is rarely.
I found Tour mode a bit “jumpy”?. I’m usually in the mountain so eMTB mode. When I’m on the flats, with the wife or friends, eco mode or off when I’m on the Hardtail. It’s nice to have the option though.

 

[slomtbr]

I don't know if the 2022 Treks come with EMTB Lite or TOUR+, so here are all the modes:

Percent Assist:
TURBO: 340%
eMTB: 140-340%
eMTB Lite: 140-250%
TOUR: 140%
TOUR+: 60-340%
ECO: 60%

Maximum Torque:
TURBO: 85Nm
eMTB: 85Nm
eMTB Lite: ~65Nm
TOUR: 50Nm
TOUR+: 85Nm
ECO: 40Nm

 

[Bummers]

Tour +does not go up to 340%, I think it's 140%.

 

[slomtbr]

Tour +does not go up to 340%, I think it's 140%.

"On flat terrain, Tour+ mode down-regulates the motor to the level of Eco mode to save energy. On steep climbs, it adapts to the rider’s performance and offers support up to the level of Turbo mode."

Dynamic support and more range for everyone – Bosch present the new Tour+ mode

Bosch present the new dynamic Tour+ mode for more range and adaptive support.

ebike-mtb.com

What MagicTour is for Moustache, TOUR+ is for Trek/Bosch

Emtb Lite v Tour +

Anyone tried both of these, how do they compare? I’m currently running Trek’s Emtb Lite.

www.emtbforums.com

 

[Bummers]

"On flat terrain, Tour+ mode down-regulates the motor to the level of Eco mode to save energy. On steep climbs, it adapts to the rider’s performance and offers support up to the level of Turbo mode."

Dynamic support and more range for everyone – Bosch present the new Tour+ mode

Bosch present the new dynamic Tour+ mode for more range and adaptive support.

ebike-mtb.com

What MagicTour is for Moustache, TOUR+ is for Trek/Bosch

Emtb Lite v Tour +

Anyone tried both of these, how do they compare? I’m currently running Trek’s Emtb Lite.

www.emtbforums.com

I stand corrected, mine certainly doesn't give me anything close to turbo. I wonder if cube have a different tune for it?

 

[slomtbr]

I stand corrected, mine certainly doesn't give me anything close to turbo. I wonder if cube have a different tune for it?

Cube's website says Tour+ is available. It may not come standard and you could still have the original Tour mode.
Cube's Canada site states the modes are Eco, Tour ("Steady support for long tours"), EMTB, and Turbo - so you could have the original Tour mode, which is 140%.

 

[Bummers]

Cube's website says Tour+ is available. It may not come standard and you could still have the original Tour mode.
Cube's Canada site states the modes are Eco, Tour ("Steady support for long tours"), EMTB, and Turbo - so you could have the original Tour mode, which is 140%.

Ah that could well be it. Need to check as auto assistance from eco to turbo sounds great.

 

[JP-NZ]

I don't know if the 2022 Treks come with EMTB Lite or TOUR+, so here are all the modes:

Percent Assist:
TURBO: 340%
eMTB: 140-340%
eMTB Lite: 140-250%
TOUR: 140%
TOUR+: 60-340%
ECO: 60%

Maximum Torque:
TURBO: 85Nm
eMTB: 85Nm
eMTB Lite: ~65Nm
TOUR: 50Nm
TOUR+: 85Nm
ECO: 40Nm

For the 2022 Rail it is

Percent Assist:
TURBO: 340%
eMTB: 140-340%
TOUR+: 60-340%
ECO: 60%

Maximum Torque:
TURBO: 85Nm
eMTB: 85Nm
TOUR+: 85Nm
ECO: 40Nm

Keep in mind you can alter the Eco and Turbo within the Bosch ebike flow app