Rail 7 Chain ring keeps loosening

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But it keeps coming undone! Surely a drop of locktite would do the job

If it keeps coming undone, is it possible that the freewheel hub cone is tightening up and giving you a bit of over-run which reverses the chain tension?

The rear hub on my missus' bike converted itself into a fixie recently which makes me wonder whether this is a possibility. Of course, I might be musing complete and utter bollocks...
 
I've been researching this a bit. The BBT-18 comes in octagonal format so you can't use a 36mm socket with it. Instead I will need to buy a 36mm crows foot open spanner to use my torque wrench. The cheapest one of those I can find is 55€. Ouch!

This Unior one uses 1/2" ratchet drive. I'm sure there are other brands that have a similar thing. Trek carries Unior maybe they can order you one if you can't get it from Unior direct.
8 Tooth Cartridge Bottom Bracket Tool - 1671.2/4 | Unior USA
 
This is what I made, patent pending...
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This Unior one uses 1/2" ratchet drive. I'm sure there are other brands that have a similar thing. Trek carries Unior maybe they can order you one if you can't get it from Unior direct.
8 Tooth Cartridge Bottom Bracket Tool - 1671.2/4 | Unior USA

Thank you! Found it on a Spanish site. Same price in euros as you pay in $. Methinks someone is being a little naughty here given that it's a Slovenian company. I guess we're paying lockdown markup. :unsure:
 
Interestingly I saw a review about the Trek Rail, can't remember where, and they complained that the chain ring kept loosening! Also my Kenevo Lockring torque spec is 50Nm - I know its a different bike!
 
WilkyWay I don't believe you made that?
Prove me wrong and make another, then send to me for inspection ?
 
This was the mk2 version. The mk1 was made from thinner wall steel and wasn’t up to the job.
It’s just a steel cylinder with The teeth cut in, welded to a 1/2” socket, then turned on a lathe to smoothen it and buffed.
Happy to take some more pictures for anyone who wants to make one.
 
Hello,

I have the same problem with my Rail 7.

- Do I need to remove the right side crank arm to tighten the chainring lockring

- Does it require any special tools to remove the right side crankarm?
 
Mine went today :( proper loose, given it a wash and checked it over, the locking but just keeps spinning, should it be clockwise? Or anti clockwise? Or is it a case of stripping the crank off then securing the nut?
 
Mine went today :( proper loose, given it a wash and checked it over, the locking but just keeps spinning, should it be clockwise? Or anti clockwise? Or is it a case of stripping the crank off then securing the nut?
Tighten it counter clockwise. You have to take the crankarm off first to tighten the lockring with a proper tool.

Remove the crank nut with 8mm allenkey. Then use crank-puller (ccp-44 is what i used) to remove crankarm. Tighten the chainring lockring counter clockwise with proper tool ( I used BBT-18). After that put the crank arm + crank nut back and tighten with 8mm allenkey.
 
I definitely need some tools! Thanks!
When tightened once is that enough or does it need constant tightening?
 
I havent had to touch it since and since i tightened it properly I've put +1000km and 70-80% off it is rough trails
 
Is anyone not bothering with the o-ring? Difficult to torque up the lock ring without the o-ring bunching up, at which point it is surely no longer doing its intended job. Seems to me everything should work just fine without it?
 
There’s definitely no o-ring on mine. It was either never fitted or fell of when it came loose. ??‍♂️
 
There’s definitely no o-ring on mine. It was either never fitted or fell of when it came loose. ??‍♂️
It cant be that important then, I can't work out what function it's supposed to have. I did read somewhere on here that some mechanics aren't bothering with it either ?
 
As I don’t have the tools I took the hour drive to the bike shop I got the bike from, all I can say is great service, offered me the software update and sorted the chainring out, shouldn’t come loose again. All sorted all there and then which I wasn’t expecting! Bring on the next ride!
 
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