New Zeb 2023 doesn't stay at full extension

torabora851

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Hi, I've just installed the 170mm Zeb, and found that it doesn't stay in a fully extended position (like the previous Zeb, or Lyrik I have). Under the bike weight, just staying on the ground the measurement is 160mm, when I lift the bike up, under the wheel weight it shows 165. Only if I forcefully push the wheel out, it reaches 170mm, but it doesn't stay in that position and returns back to 165mm. So basically 170mm Zeb stays on the same level as Fox Rythm 160mm it replaced.

Is it normal for the debon air+ or should I send the fork back under warranty?
 

Dax

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Has it got the air relief valves on the legs? If so let the air out, otherwise check out YouTube on burping forks with a cable tie
 

steve_sordy

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Did you inflate the fork in stages, compressing the fork half a dozen times between each step? How to do it should be in the manual. Also on YouTube.
 

torabora851

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Did you inflate the fork in stages, compressing the fork half a dozen times between each step? How to do it should be in the manual. Also on YouTube.
Yep, I can hear the sound of equalization.
So is it sucking up the fork without weight on the front ??
Yep, around 10mm.


Actually, after a day of riding rough trails today (it was the first ride after I installed it) it stays almost fully extended. So probably it was not equalized lower legs (but I pressed release valves! no hissing sound). Thanks all for the help :)
 

head

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I had a similar issue with Fox 38. I equalized everything a few times, but it did not help. Then I rode it a few times, and it worked as expected!

From what I read on forums, there could be too much grease from the factory that blocks something. I don't know, I'm not a suspension nerd. However, riding the fork helped :).
 

irie

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I had a similar issue with Fox 38. I equalized everything a few times, but it did not help. Then I rode it a few times, and it worked as expected!

From what I read on forums, there could be too much grease from the factory that blocks something. I don't know, I'm not a suspension nerd. However, riding the fork helped :).
My Zeb A2 works fine for now, but wouldn't be surprised if the first time I do the lower leg service I'll find too much grease ...
 

Stoneilove

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I had a similar issue with Fox 38. I equalized everything a few times, but it did not help. Then I rode it a few times, and it worked as expected!

From what I read on forums, there could be too much grease from the factory that blocks something. I don't know, I'm not a suspension nerd. However, riding the fork helped :).
I had the same thing with my 38, after the first ride it was fine.
 

Bones

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Welcome to the world of mtb forks. If you are not heavy enough to have at least 100psi in the fork to get your sag right then it's going to drop under the weight of the bike. These forks are a generic setup. Even if it's got an emtb shim stack the air side is standard . So stick a motor and a 4.5kilo battery into the equation and something has to give. Just my way of thinking about it having the same issue with fox 38's.
 

torabora851

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I found a previous DebonAir, and compared it with the new DebonAir+. Interesting that the air piston ring on the new DebonAir+ is located lower by 10mm than the previous one. Taking that the equalizing dimple is located exactly on the level of the previous air spring piston the new piston is ~10mm lower than the equalizing point. That means that on the maximum extension, the negative spring has higher pressure than the positive and this explains why the fork sits lower than the maximum travel.

DebonAirVsDebonAirPlus.jpg
 
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