Dogs, what would you do in this situation then ?

VWsurfbum

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WOW, As a big dog owner, that's the last thing I'd want to see.
Firstly I hope the rider is ok and not harmed?
Secondly, Those owners (I hope) did go back and check on the rider, it seemed like they just walked away???
Dogs should not be off a lead if they are not trained and have a decent recall. My Doberman is great when riding with me but less so when on a forest walk, so I rarely let him off unless he's run the stupid out first.
My brother hates dogs, and doesn't ride with me and the dog, the way he put it to me, was if you saw the size of your dog running towards you, it would scare people, friendly or not.
 

Shjay

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Poor bloke not experienced anything like that luckerly but owners should have training on how to recall their dogs or have them taken off them so many owners these days have zero control of their animal
 

Beaker2135

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Hope he’s OK that the worst case I’ve seen and I’ve had run in’s with plenty of farm dogs over the years. Pack mentality definitely kicked in with those ‘puppies’ I can’t think of any defence from the owners point of view for having dogs off lead with zero control, they were even attacked themselves at one point
 

cookie70

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As a dog owner that is hard to watch. All owners should keep control of their dogs and if they know they cannot control the dogs when they go into protection mode they should NOT be off the lead! Those dogs were clearing out of control, biting the owners also!
I'd be submitting that to authorities, sad for the dogs usually (when its the stupid owners fault) but you cant have dogs behave like that. Imagine if that was a kid on a bike!
 

The EMF

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Always cautious around dogs/owners that I do not know especially the ones not on leads and owners saying “ they won’t hurt you, they don’t like bikes” while the dogs hackles are raised and bearing a set of pearly white that would rip your throat out in a jot….
Never been in a situation like that rider shown in the clip must of been terrifying. The owners are at fault and totally irresponsible because they knew how their dogs behave……like a pack not a single
 

irie

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Those dogs should be put down. I would have reported that to the police, they are dangerous animals and the owners should be prosecuted - it's on video.

I'm always wary when passing dogs. If to avoid them I have to get off and walk then I always keep my bike between myself and the dog.
 
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Hobo Mikey

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That footage should go straight to the police. Shame for the dogs but if owners can’t control their dogs they should not have them. Like others have said if that was a kid it could have been a lot worse.
in the summer I was up in some woods on my bike and came across a walker with 6 dogs from Alsatian to Jack Russel size, I came round a corner saw them so stopped and the dogs all ran around me barking and nipping at my legs, broke the skin on one leg. The owner came and shouted at them and took them away. She said there not used to seeing peaple. I never swear at women but I did that time. Just wish I had a camera at the time.
 

steve_sordy

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Awful! I could feel my heart rate rising and I'm just watching a video! :eek:
I would have got out my folding saw and let the vicious little bastards have it right across the nose.
 

Simon1970

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I was very lucky a few years ago. A bloke started shouting at me from about 100yd away telling me to go back the way i came as his big dog doesn't like bikes. Him shouting at me made his dog aware (not on a lead) and it chased me down. I had to use my bike to pin the dog between me and a wire fence as a shield until owner could get it under control. Since then i have never been down that route again. He also just walked off saying nothing and no apology
 

irie

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Awful! I could feel my heart rate rising and I'm just watching a video! :eek:
I would have got out my folding saw and let the vicious little bastards have it right across the nose.
I have this in my mini ruck sack.

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steve_sordy

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I have this in my mini ruck sack.

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That would sting a bit!

A few years ago, I was bothered a few times by a farmer' dog guarding his driveway. I was on a bridleway. When I went past after the second time, I took a small aerosol of WD-40. I gave it a good spray in the face and it ran off yelping. I never saw it again, ever.
I hope I wasn't responsible for its disappearance! :(
 

Freeforester

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High velocity lead injection, to all four legged assailants, no reprieve, no exceptions. Report the incident and owners to the police, and put the matter in the hands of your solicitors. Irresponsible/inconsiderate, ‘entitled’ and ‘lifestyle’ dog owners are on the rise, and are a menace to society, our shared wildlife and the environment.

Next, national campaign or lobby for £100 per annum per dog licence, to instil responsible dog ownership. Too many people are simply incapable of responsible dog ownership and handling. All dogs on leads when in the countryside, to conserve ground nesting birds, livestock and other wildlife, unless in designated exercise areas (fenced field where they can run amok and pollute to their hearts content).

This considerate owner of 3 well behaved, well trained dogs approves this message.
 

cookie70

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I had a similar situation a couple of weeks ago, I didnt hang around to let it escalate like this fellow! Was riding on usual trails (dogs are not allowed in these reserves) so I got a surprise when two large cattle dogs ran at me through the bush. They both had harness with names on them so didnt think much of it. As I kept riding they started to get agitated (I was approaching two kids that owned them) they started to bite my tyres and when one tried to nip my leg I got on the pedals and hightailed it outta there, yelling at the kids to control the dogs! Not fun and I was lucky to escape with minor wound
 

Mikerb

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There is a danger here of over reacting. You cannot penalise all dog owners or indeed their dogs because some owners are irresponsible and some dogs ( largely predictable breeds) are natural hunters or fighters. Given that almost any dog can be aggressive if they are ill treated, the majority of the problem of dogs attacking people is down to the breed of dog and more breeds should be banned or at least forced to wear muzzles in public places. Those measures would also be far easier to implement as law and to enforce. Currently in the UK the list of "banned" dogs is far from comprehensive enough and needs reviewing.
It would also be easy in terms of legislation, and as a first measure, to immediately ban the breeding of dogs on an extended list of banned dogs.
Breeds historically bred as guard dogs, fighting dogs, hunting dogs ( ie they chase and kill the game not just raise or retrieve) and dogs bred to control vermin.........all have aggressive tendencies as part of their DNA and have no place being kept as domestic pets.
 

Mikerb

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The video above was disturbing and the owners should be both ashamed and sanctioned. In terms of how such as situation could be handled, More than one dog poses a different problem to an attack by a single dog but a couple of tactics come to mind ( hopefully I would have the presence of mind to remember them if needed) . Firstly it is the bike that excites them because it is like a fleeing prey so unless there is a chance of outrunning them I would stop. Even if you try to outrun them you are best riding towards the owner than away from him/her.
With a single dog the bike can act as a form of barrier between rider and dog but if there are 2 dogs that is not going to work and you are better of putting the bike down to leave yourself more free to defend yourself.

If it comes to it , and you are in danger of serious injury, you can disable a dog if you are able to grab its collar just below its ear and twist and hold with your fist between the collar and the dogs neck.
 

LeftItLancs

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As the owner of a large powerful dog breed which that has been constantly demonized by the UK tabloid MSM, an American Bulldog, I still don't agree that a dog licence is the solution. Authorities in the UK don't even monitor dog microchipping, which is mandatory by law. People who are willing to buy a puppy from a dodgy backstreet breeder as a status dog (no socialisation), are also more likely not to train them properly, and by then it is already too late.

In my local area, my local dog warden was made redundant during a period off work sick (probably due to the pressure he was under)and because it is just not a priority for the local council after 12 years of austerity and now dog wardens police a much larger area. My area is also predominantly working class, suffers more cutbacks and in comparison to more affluent areas, more social issues. People use large breeds to protect them and their property because the police, also due to austerity, are next to useless.

I don't recommend trying to grab the collar of a large dog either unless it is a last resort. Try and stay calm and put something physical, like the eMTB between you are the dog/s. By the time a large dog is attacking, it is already in reaction mode, the red mist, and shouting in my experience will just agitate it more, A few loud "fk" offs may help as will squirting the dog with water from your bottle. Why would anyone squirt toxic chemicals at a dog unless it is attacking them? However, when you see an owner shouting aggressively at a large dog that clearly hasn't been properly trained, then it is a good sign the owner is a wrong un and the two a lethal combination.
 

DNE87

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I was very lucky a few years ago. A bloke started shouting at me from about 100yd away telling me to go back the way i came as his big dog doesn't like bikes. Him shouting at me made his dog aware (not on a lead) and it chased me down. I had to use my bike to pin the dog between me and a wire fence as a shield until owner could get it under control. Since then i have never been down that route again. He also just walked off saying nothing and no apology
Had a very similar experience in my local woods, big male german shepard bolted at me from a good 50 yards away when I came round a corner, had the bike between me and the dog luckily or it would of ripped limbs off no doubt, the thing was a savage. Owner couldn't careless, didn't even run to control the dog just casually strolled towards me to get it under control. Didn't say a word just put in on the lead and walked off, whilst I hurled abuse at him, rightfully so!
 

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