Differences between 22' Rails and previous years.

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Hi Guys - Found this interesting link on the Australian site today after some digging.
Details the changes in the Rail lineup from a frame POV plus some interesting facts I couldn't find elsewhere online.

TLDR-
What is different about the frame compared to previous versions?

Rail 9.7 and below use the same frame as previous models.
Rail 9.8 and up have new frames with: - Slash-inspired geometry – 64.5-degree head angle and longer reach - Bigger 1.8” head tube and 34.9mm seat tube - Capacity for larger 750 watt-hour battery

 
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If anyone wants a link to where I found it here it is:

Rail 9 Gen 2 - Trek Bikes (AU)

Discover your next great ride with Rail 9. See the bike and visit your local Trek retailer. Shop now!
www.trekbikes.com www.trekbikes.com

Under "Bike Tech"
 
They're on the US site as well.

9.8 and above will have the new system, and the 750 will be removable.

Rail 9.8 GX Gen 3 - Trek Bikes

Discover your next great ride with Rail 9.8 GX. See the bike and visit your local Trek retailer. Shop now!
www.trekbikes.com www.trekbikes.com

which includes

 
As for the 9.8 and 9.9
The motor as been tilt a little bit, and is lower. This combine with the new batterie connector, allows it to sit lower. But on the picture, you can clearly see that it still goes higher, up to the fork crown. watch here at 1:41
 
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According to Pinkbike the Bosch motor doesn't clatter any more "The motor was also extremely quiet and didn't emit any clunky noises while descending, unlike the bikes we tested with the rattling Shimano EP8 motor at our Summer Field Test."

www.pinkbike.com

First Ride: 2022 Trek Rail 9.9 - More Battery Power & Updated Geometry - Pinkbike

The Rail 9.9 now has a 750Wh battery and geometry numbers that are similar to the Slash's.
www.pinkbike.com www.pinkbike.com
 
Damn these are very good looking - I have the rail 9 ordered delivery 2 weeks. Wanted to upgrade to the 9,8 but delivery is June earliest so it's a no from me, going to stick to the standard.
 
I really wish they would have bumped it to a 170/170 or a 170/160 bike and I not sure why they did not. Everything else about the bike looks pretty amazing, modern geo, top battery and motor, lightweight carbon frame, short chainstays. If they bumped the travel and did fox suspension that would be the absolute ultimate at least for me. Anyways, I was definitely happy to see the longer reach frames, these are gonna be great bikes.
 
Started with the 9.8 2020, have the 2021 now.
new one looks nice, but it’sjust too much tech and batteries to charge on the new one. Not to mention the price increase. (At least here)
The suspension seems nice though, but not in a hurry to upgrade this time
 
the prices are getting proper obscene now ! i splashed 4800 on a rail 7 last summer,
and i thought that was plenty to spend (awesome bike BTW), just had a quick look over the images of the 2022 bike and it
looks dandy, but pound to a piece of shit the paint is still very fragile(for emtb)
and its still got that shitty charging flap thats absolutely useless,
but lets dazzle people with glittery paint and bits of fragile tech that they can fanny about with
on their phones ,instead of sorting snags that still exist !!
 
Sid808632 said:
Damn these are very good looking - I have the rail 9 ordered delivery 2 weeks. Wanted to upgrade to the 9,8 but delivery is June earliest so it's a no from me, going to stick to the standard.
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I’ve got a 9 coming mid November but I’d love a 9.8 GX if they do one in the UK. Where are you in the world? If the UK, there’s no point me changing my order as I’ll have the same wait as you
 
Grundy said:
I’ve got a 9 coming mid November but I’d love a 9.8 GX if they do one in the UK. Where are you in the world? If the UK, there’s no point me changing my order as I’ll have the same wait as you
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I am in Melbourne, Australia mate
 
Is it possible to buy a frame and motor? I have upgraded everything on my 2021 9.8 would like to just swap my suspension and everything over
 
I never seen just the frame and motor for sale, but I don't know for sure
 
Hi All

I ordered a 7 back in August, and the bikes have just landed, but only 9.7's, so it was a case of take it or leave it. So I will be receiving a 2022 9.7 this week.

Does anyone know why Trek have not used the same frame for the 9.7 vs the new 9? I would have thought that it would be much easier for them just to have one carbon frame?

Thanks

Tom
 
Pyga Tom said:
Hi All

I ordered a 7 back in August, and the bikes have just landed, but only 9.7's, so it was a case of take it or leave it. So I will be receiving a 2022 9.7 this week.

Does anyone know why Trek have not used the same frame for the 9.7 vs the new 9? I would have thought that it would be much easier for them just to have one carbon frame?

Thanks

Tom
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My guess is that the frames would have already being ordered/built in advance, the delay of components has left them with a load of frames.

The new 2022 frame again would have been designed/ordered in advance so to get through them all they have spilt the range 9.7 / 9.8-9.9

P.
 
Update - Been riding my 22' Rail for approx. 2 weeks now, absolutely badass - my first E-mtb and it rips, lots of fun. First upgrade will prob be brakes, not much feel/stopping power on descents for me at least. Overall mega impressed,
 
The 9.7 still uses the 625 battery, the new carbon frames are designed to take the 750 batteries, so the battery compartment would be to big for the 9.7
 
Sid808632 said:
Update - Been riding my 22' Rail for approx. 2 weeks now, absolutely badass - my first E-mtb and it rips, lots of fun. First upgrade will prob be brakes, not much feel/stopping power on descents for me at least. Overall mega impressed,
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Congratulations on the new bike. I love my 1. Gen. Have a 2022 on order. How many km have you got out of the battery? I get 35km on mine in EMTB mode, 95% trails
 
Sid808632 said:
Update - Been riding my 22' Rail for approx. 2 weeks now, absolutely badass - my first E-mtb and it rips, lots of fun. First upgrade will prob be brakes, not much feel/stopping power on descents for me at least. Overall mega impressed,
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Just make sure you dont open the charging flap more than 3/4 open, when you plug charger in,
otherwise you,ll end up taping the flap shut like many other Rail owners have had to resort to!!
See the charging port thread!!
 
Rostle32 said:
Just make sure you dont open the charging flap more than 3/4 open, when you plug charger in,
otherwise you,ll end up taping the flap shut like many other Rail owners have had to resort to!!
See the charging port thread!!
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Wow I have been doing this... Thank you for the tip, much appreciated.
 
Yoak said:
Congratulations on the new bike. I love my 1. Gen. Have a 2022 on order. How many km have you got out of the battery? I get 35km on mine in EMTB mode, 95% trails
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Thank you so much! Yep it's amazing will post some pics when I take it out next.

I have done a 35km ride EMTB mode also, had approx. 50% left, wasn't the hardest of rides topography wise but certainly wasn't easy, very impressed :D
 
I’m Looking forward to the extra mileage. It’s usually not a problem, but I have cut trips short a few times due to running low in battery. For 80% of my riding 625 battery is enough, but it will be great to have the option to keep going.
 
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