Calling all Ebike nerds please check this spec . Help needed in

[calnearlyebike]

Good morning , good evening depending on what part of the world you’re from. I’m not an out and out Ebike nerd but I do love mtb bikes tho. This will be my first Ebike , iv been tempted for years just can’t bring myself to spend 10k on the latest rigs. I have seen this bike which seems like a good deal. It won’t be my only bike so it won’t be getting thrashed . But I can’t resist the Ebike calling much longer.

The privateer e161 is down to 4k . I just don’t know motors and batteries. I’m 105kg

Shimano EP01, 85NM
Shimano BT-EN806, 630Wh

Privateer E161

The E161 replicates the capabilities of the award-winning Privateer 161 while offering the advantage of quick ascents, enabling riders to maximise their training potential and tackle formidable E-MTB enduro races and the unique challenges they present.

www.privateerbikes.com

The bike will just be for a mad couple hours when I’m not riding regular bikes.

 

[jackamo]

Try Pauls Cycles for a Raymon Tallray.
Cracking bikes at 1/2 the price .

 

[Astro66]

Good morning , good evening depending on what part of the world you’re from. I’m not an out and out Ebike nerd but I do love mtb bikes tho. This will be my first Ebike , iv been tempted for years just can’t bring myself to spend 10k on the latest rigs. I have seen this bike which seems like a good deal. It won’t be my only bike so it won’t be getting thrashed . But I can’t resist the Ebike calling much longer.

The privateer e161 is down to 4k . I just don’t know motors and batteries. I’m 105kg

Shimano EP01, 85NM
Shimano BT-EN806, 630Wh

Privateer E161

The E161 replicates the capabilities of the award-winning Privateer 161 while offering the advantage of quick ascents, enabling riders to maximise their training potential and tackle formidable E-MTB enduro races and the unique challenges they present.

www.privateerbikes.com

The bike will just be for a mad couple hours when I’m not riding regular bikes.

EP801 is the best motor Shimano make. And that is a Shimano Gen2 battery, which when paired with the EP801 is a very good battery for that motor.

Maintained well, it's a solid motor/battery combination.

 

[RustyMTB]

It's fine for what you describe, is a decent build & gets positive reviews. If I had to pick fault with it, I'd say you can get more battery for similar money & Shimano motors aren't the top of the tree & they're not really repairable. Shimano don't give technical support to third party motor service companies & usually just replace broken motors under warranty. The motor stuff boils down to a point of view - plenty of happy Shimano owners out there. But if you're looking for a good bike for two hour blasts, it's a winner.

 

[calnearlyebike]

It's fine for what you describe, is a decent build & gets positive reviews. If I had to pick fault with it, I'd say you can get more battery for similar money & Shimano motors aren't the top of the tree & they're not really repairable. Shimano don't give technical support to third party motor service companies & usually just replace broken motors under warranty. The motor stuff boils down to a point of view - plenty of happy Shimano owners out there. But if you're looking for a good bike for two hour blasts, it's a winner.

Any suggestions ?

 

[RustyMTB]

Cube, Focus off the top of my head. That Raymon mentioned above is a good deal. Whyte e 160's can be had with 750 batteries & Bosch motors for around £3600.

 

[calnearlyebike]

Cube, Focus off the top of my head. That Raymon mentioned above is a good deal. Whyte e 160's can be had with 750 batteries & Bosch motors for around £3600.

The e160 looks good the spec is off compared the privateer. You suggest taking the better motor over the spec ?

I could always switch some bits off another bike to improve it.

 

[RustyMTB]

I'd say the Bosch motor is a better drive unit than the Shimano & battery/motor should always be the prime consideration because for the most part, you can't upgrade them but, opinions may vary. I'd also say the biggest battery you can get is a good idea. Batteries today are sitting around 750-800 watt/hrs. 625 on that Privateer is on the small side by today's standards & will limit the range of the bike to 30-40 miles, depending on the usual factors, mode, rider weight, terrain etc.

 

[calnearlyebike]

I'd say the Bosch motor is a better drive unit than the Shimano but, opinions may vary. I'd also say the biggest battery you can get is a good idea. Batteries today are sitting around 750-800 watt/hrs. 625 on that Privateer is on the small side by today's standards & will limit the range of the bike to 30-40 miles, depending on the usual factors, mode, rider weight, terrain etc.

30-40 miles !!! Never seen such distances in my life. Full days In the saddle do nothing for me.

I winch and plummet in woodlands . As many laps as I can get in 2 /3 hours. Steep up . Steep down .

 

[RustyMTB]

...which is why it pay to think about what you want from a bike.

 

[calnearlyebike]

Think I’m going for the privateer fellas . Il upload photos shortly after my mind has been blown first ride

 

[calnearlyebike]

...which is why it pay to think about what you want from a bike.

Thanks for your help mate .

 

[Astro66]

Think I’m going for the privateer fellas . Il upload photos shortly after my mind has been blown first ride

The spec was sensational for the price.

I've run the Shimano EP600, (Which is almost identical to the EP801) with that Shimano 630Wh battery. Keep the connections free of dirt and water, by cleaning and using Water Dispersant, and it will be a solid motor.

Enjoy.

 

[Weeksy]

Think I’m going for the privateer fellas . Il upload photos shortly after my mind has been blown first ride

Good man, my boy raced for them for 2 years as an Enduro racer

He built a load of wheels on work experience for them

 

[Gilbo]

Hi
The group I go out riding with (sometime 10+) all on various makes and models. Everyone of them on shimano motors have had electrical issues. Only 1 with a Bosch electric system has had issues (and his maintainance is shit). Personally I have always owned cube stereo hybrid 140’s and 160’s and can’t fault them. You get a lot of bike and spec for your money.
Straight answer to a straight question just go and buy a cube.

 

[jackamo]

Hi
The group I go out riding with (sometime 10+) all on various makes and models. Everyone of them on shimano motors have had electrical issues. Only 1 with a Bosch electric system has had issues (and his maintainance is shit). Personally I have always owned cube stereo hybrid 140’s and 160’s and can’t fault them. You get a lot of bike and spec for your money.
Straight answer to a straight question just go and buy a cube.

Only problem with Cubes is they tend to make their bolts out cheese and love loctite.

 

[Gilbo]

Only problem with Cubes is they tend to make their bolts out cheese and love loctite.

I always torque to spec and use good quality Allen sockets/T bars and I’ve never had a problem.

 

[Dunabunk]

I'm riding trek exe 9.5 (purchase Jan 24 for £3,899) and done almost 3k miles without any issues, I believe it was voted 1 of the best ebikes for 2023-24
it as a quiet motor with torque of 50nm and a 360w battery i usually get around 40 miles on a full charge depending on my motor settings
hope it helps

 

[Paul F]

An amazing deal. But unless the bike has a 85Nm plus motor , 750Wh plus battery, Shimano or SRAM drive chain/gears and RockShox or Fox suspension, I wouldn't buy one. But if you don't have the budget then those bikes deserve considering.

 

[jackamo]

An amazing deal. But unless the bike has a 85Nm plus motor , 750Wh plus battery, Shimano or SRAM drive chain/gears and RockShox or Fox suspension, I wouldn't buy one. But if you don't have the budget then those bikes deserve considering.

they do

 

[Zero cool]

I’ve ridden the regular Privateer 161 (mk1) and they were great. Unfortunately I’ve not ridden the ebike version though. They’re nice guys to deal with as well