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From the Bosch site: “The technical manipulation of eBikes, such as increasing the shutdown speed to over 25 km/h, creates continuous loads that were not accounted for in the design and for which even the robust, high-performance components of Bosch eBike Systems are not designed. In this...

It was Joseph Joubert that said “The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress” I think that fits here. Cheers to you Al, i’m heading off for the night.

I deristricted my bike long before you made those statements, so that is not my justification, i can assure you. It bothers me when people overstate things to drive their point in a discussion, how well meaning they might be. But that point has been cleared up so it is water under the bridge for...

This whole thread is about derestricting emtbs. It is fine if you want to give examples about other types of vehicles to illustrate a point but be up front about it. Be honest, when you read this: Can you honestly say that this does not give the impression that somebody used an app to make a...

I get that, and i also get the difficulty of gaining and keeping of trail acces. But what i am advocating for, on both sides of the discussion is being truthfull and not misleading. Nothing is gained by withholding info or giving “alternative facts”

Well i have a buddy that used a Polini cylinder to make his moped go 55 mph but i did not think it would be relevant to mention here. Sounds like you posted that tidbit just to shock people since it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic we are discussing here.

I think it is very important in discussions like these to be truthfull. That is why i want to ask you this question. Are you saying a customer of you used a app, indonesian or otherwise and that app made his normal, 250 watt, before street legal, ebike go 60 MPH without going down a extrme slope?

My friends are fit guys that are half my weight, they reach 30+kmh on flat sections using non ebikes. Without electric support it would not be a fun ride for me.

There is no way in hell a derestricted factory eMTB will do 40 mph on flat ground. More like 25 mph in good conditions, maybe get it up to 30 for a short stint. Now this topic is in the derestricted section you will not be judged as harshly as in the “mainstream” forum. This is the dark...

The only thing derestricting does is removing the artificial 25 km/h limit. Therefore it cannot produce more torque. If you ride above 25 km/h wind resistance becomes a much bigger factor so the motor is working like it would on a mild incline. Since these are crank driven motors it does not...

Yeah, the thing is you can tell yourself you are only gonna do it sometimes, or 25 km/h is fast enough but the truth is now you know how your, and every other ebike, should feel, riding with the limiter on is never gonna feel the same. :)

Really cool software! I wish bosch offered something like this.

does this software completely derestrict your bike or can you set a max speed?

Sounds like a very real possibility, maybe that setting can only be changed with manufacturer equipment. You could try e-mailing shimano north america, say you bought a EU spec bike but live in the US and ask if it is possible and if so how, to change the limiter.

Well if the problem lies into downloading the app just use a vpn, there are free ones around.

SHIMANO STEPS – the e-bike system for CITY, TREKKING and MTB This link should work.