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  1. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    Problem solved, I went to Trek Centre, however they couldn't connect Bosch app to my bike, something didn't work, they've asked me to wait few days/a week. Meanwhile I bough Spesh Turbo Levo - PROBLEM SOLVED. What a difference ! Everything Is done in a way it should ! Proper display...
  2. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    just don't use Bosch
  3. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    yes, this is exactly what I understand, eMTB lite allows you to save energy, coz it's capped (you will never use full power). with Tour+ I use full power like in eMtb/Turbo - something I want to avoid.
  4. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    With this i'm lost again :) I guess I have Tour+, which doesn't conserve energy... ? eMTB Lite would do that, by NOT providing full power. I'll try to get rid of it :)
  5. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    t that would be amazing, where? i couldn't find it (I don't have newest bosch 'smart' thingy)
  6. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    Looks like ;) I have a strange feeling, that with all your experience and knowledge, You could tell this probably from my first post, instead you chose to troll me for almost a week .... It looks like another amazing solution from Bosch, creating different modes, but forgetting to change their...
  7. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I never said that. Please read my posts more carefully. I said tour/emtb/turbo give the same (max?) power if you pedal hard.
  8. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I gave you exactly that example above: constant power from me + power from motor (in tour and turbo mode) = the same time on a climb segment. why don't you read it ? Do you think I did some mistakes during my test? maybe I could change/improve something ? I cannot do Your tests, as I don't have...
  9. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I feel like i have to explain you how to read these (quite often marketing) pictures you are posting..... :( Yes, I ride my bike, even I did a test yesterday and provided you some data , and even explained You how to read it and I was happy to discuss and explain data provided by You (which was...
  10. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    correct, these are maximum / 'up to' values and if Turbo can give you 720? we don't know, it's 'up to X', and even if it does, probably it's for a second or a few, when you accelerate.
  11. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I don't see lightning symbol here (data from power meter), which means these power values are roughly estimated by Strava (from distance,inclination), but it's not very accurate (no info about terrain, tires, bike/your weight etc.) Basically, on your images, this is total power estimated by...
  12. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    I'm talking and power, not torque however, i gave you already an equation with torque before.... but yeah, i undestand. I already explained everything many posts before, and you just try to argue for a sake of arguing? or just trolling? :) ok, fine, my bike is faulty and/or I'm faulty. EOT.
  13. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    300W is my constant power (and i can relate that to my other bike with power meter), not a motor (this is what Kiox display shows you and what is saved in GPX/TCX files). Motor gives maximum power at that time (in Tour or Turbo), thus, segment time is THE SAME in both situations. Terrain was...
  14. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    This is surely a joke. Bosch didn't see mountain biker from a mile.... Purion - inspired by 70's StarTrek, on bikes for 7-8k only one eMTB mode (Tour is for touring/city bikes), no customisation at all controls - again, fancy looking, not designed for MTB (compare with shimano, specialized or...
  15. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    please read my first post, I just stated that Tour is too powerful (like or almost like eMTB), and Eco is nice, but for all day trips. I spoke with Trek shop, they said it's like this, they cannot adjust it. So, you cannot help me, unless you can modify software. someone gave some values, so I...
  16. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    and as we spoke, 140% * 280W = 392W - is way above motor limit, the same with the torque 85rpm * 50Nm / 9.554140127 = 445W (way above continuous motor power) You can reach motor max. in all 3 modes.
  17. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    It's difficult to read it exactly while you climbing. I'll try to do test - short climb in both modes (and maybe record it) on a weekend.
  18. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    Why do you think so? why do you think Tour cannot give you full power ?
  19. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    don't think so, everything is fine, I was able to keep up with 2 Unno Mith bikes (they have Bosch motors as well and were on emtb/turbo mode). I've already explained what's the problem. Lack of custom settings (for at least one mode), and that all 3 modes can give you maximum power.... but...
  20. rzr

    Bosch gen4 - tour mode too strong?

    yep. probably you missed :) I didn't say they feel exactly the same, I said all 3 give maximum power. (or in other words, when i climb - all give max. power). Tour gives up to 140% of your power? so 280W * 1.4 = 392W (but motor max sustained power is 250W) eMTB up to 340% ? 280W*3.4=952W, but...
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