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That's interesting. Cheers. Have you got a picture?.

Sounds good. I really need a 6 seater. 3 up front and 3 in the back as I have a family of three plus two dogs!. So the ability to tilt and play with seats is limited.

Considering buying one when my pickup dies. I can fit the rise in the pickup laid flat diagonally but want something slightly shorter wheelbase.

Cheers thats what i suspected. So an orbea rise wouldn't fit even if you put it in diagonally and wheel turned through 90 degrees?.

As per title

I’m not a fan of frame bags as I find they diminish the aesthetics of the frame but those look quite good. Especially the last black one. That is virtually undetectable. Why do you hate seat bags?.

That’s how i used to carry my tools but I need the bottle cage for my drink in this hot weather. Nice bike btw. I presume your not in the UK as we can’t have radon shipped here anymore.

It looks like it holds a lot of useful stuff just too in your face for me.

Does the bright green shower cap make it discreet.?

“Discreet” being the operative word here

Looking for a discreet way of carrying my tools and spare inner tubes on my bike without having to use a rucksack. What is your setup?.

I see the similarities but at least the motor and down tube are a lot smaller on the Scott. Man this thing is ugly.

Hecklers do look sick

Looks better in black. There’s ebikes that look far worse.

https://theloamwolf.com/2022/06/02/2022-emtb-shootout-crowning-the-best-emtb/ What do you guys make of this years winners?. Very interesting to see the Scott ransom eride 920 winning the best enduro bike category. Beating the likes of the yeti 160e which is twice as expensive.

Apart from the frame, the weight of a bike mostly comes from the wheels. This crafty rr sl is close to 20kg because of the lightweight carbon wheelset.

Looks like this is a sub 20kg full-fat Ebike. https://www.pinkbike.com/news/mondraker-debuts-sub-20kg-crafty-carbon-e-enduro-e-mtb.html?pbref=p

That is impressive. Is that with carbon 27.5 wheels front and rear.

I know. I’m just saying that I can tell a 5kg weight difference on the trail.

I forgot to put in 600wh + battery