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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Speed limit in the UK and EU is 15.5mph anyway so this isn't a problem for us. I was considering this. higher bars and stem and have an electric jump bike, could be good. Problem is probably BB height but maybe switch to a 26" front wheel. Alternatively, I was thinking of selling my motor...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Just noticed that the Specialized Store lists the TCU as "Specialized TCU, 10-LED State of charge, 3-LED Ride Mode display" which would make it the old one, pictures still show the mastermind though. Worth double checking before buying if anyone is jumping on this.
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Thanks for the very helpful answers everyone. I was contemplating this swap too. I only have a few months left on my 2022 Gen1 Levo SL warranty anyway, but I have no use for the actual 24" bike so would either need to try to sell it with the 1.1 motor battery and TCU, or sell what parts I can...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    It's not just them to be fair. Fazua use the Etor interface and Shimano use theirs. ISIS is a pretty crap outdated standard at this point so I can see why they wouldn't want to use that. Mahle have actually signed up to the Etor standard so the next Mahle motor might use that.. The Shimano...
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    Conversion - Installing M500/M600 Motors in Bosch Gen 2/3 Frame

    This is super interesting, thanks for sharing. So the BB gets a little higher and the chainstay gets a bit shorter and seat-tube steeper? win win win! 3D print services for aluminium are pretty cheap now if you want to look at doing the adaptor that way.
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Given what Bosch and Shimano motors cost, and if the Pinion MGU is going to be priced around $1000 then these prices seem completely unreasonable by comparison. If on the other hand I could get a 1.2 motor and Mastermind TCU for around the $1000 mark I would probably jump straight on it, and I...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Interesting to even see it listed. Apparently you would also need the TCU mastermind though so unless that is for sale somewhere too it isn't on.
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Luckily the right to repair legislation is going to force them to change.
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    If true, that would be great. I don't understand their attitude to spares. I tried to buy new axles for boomslang pedals once and it was just impossible.
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    The EU are introducing "right to repair" regulations and part of that is expected to include a "..requirement to make spare parts and repair manuals available to both consumers and independent repairers for a period that reflects a product's expected lifetime.." There is wording to cover both...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Yes. I think you are right, there is a very high likelihood that they won't. But it would actually make sense for them to do this. A lot of the cost of these parts is in the development and tooling rather than the part itself, so the actual cost price of the motor and TCU should be quite low...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    All the Bosch motors use the same mounts so there is no reason you couldn't buy a newer Bosch motor and controller and mount them on an older bike. I think the same is true for Shimano.
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    EMBN just posted a video. One of the engineers explicitly said that the mounting points are the same. 16-20 in:- Zimmerframe do you have the part number of the Gen2 bashguard? If it was me re-designing it I would really try to re-use one of the previous tools to save time and money...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Fantastic, thanks for doing this. Does it look like you could just drill an extra hole in the new guard?
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    IF the motor really will fit older bikes, then I think Specialized would do very well to consider offering an upgrade kit. It would probably have to be Motor + TCU2 and possibly new guard/cover and crank options maybe. But:- 1. It would really help them shift old stock of gen1 bikes. 2. It...
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    Mahle SL 1.1 to SL 1.2 - What's Possible and What's Different ?

    Thanks for starting the thread. Looks like they perhaps added a bearing to the drive side of the intermediate axle and the outside of the output shaft. Possibly the old lay-shaft had rolling-element-bearings inside the lower-speed gears and ran on a fixed axle and the new one has the axle...
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