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The idea with a 9 or 10 speeds is you have the benefit of less shifting. I rarely use the 11T so i use 9 speeds. I only need 8 shifts to go over my range. There is no good reason to copy a regular bike for an electric assisted bike. The 12S is crazy in my mind. It is just to ask 8,000 to...

The last 3 years i enjoy a Giant Estance it comes with a deore 10 speeds, 36 front and 11-46 rear. It is optimal in my opinion

I have no idea about distance, elevation, i only use an old 5$ watch. After 3 years on Ebikes i found most can be drained in 70 minutes or stretched to 4 Hrs. Being a light weight rider i can do 90 minutes to 5 Hrs with my 500Wh. I moved close to the trails so i can do morning rides recharge...

if it fits you i recommand you get a trance

On what tires and how many kilos do you weight?? Thanks

I guess this is why why i like proven products and for me new products are not attractive until they prove their value. The new one is not always better.

The point is a few years ago many Ebikes had 70nm now many have 85nm so they cannot be compared. More power with more energy gives about the same range.

I only speak french and english. I undertand you did 58.6 kms in just over 3 Hrs but many words i have no clue what they mean. Maybe your cadence was 73 on average? ??? What is your opinion about the Nobby Nic?

Again and again they are selling dreams. Bigger # = bigger price, it works for them. Some say the 750Wh do not deliver, some say the 250-300Wh extenders do not deliver. Who did a smart review and warned potential buyers?????

I agree that the **full potential** is different than the real life potential. I think a problem is marketing. To sell they went from 50nm to 70, 75, 85nm. I am no engeneer but if a system is more powerfull it burns more energy. The small 1270cc motor from a 1980 Toyota Tercel needed very little...

I rode a Temt E great or i would say best for the money

HAIBIKE. I had one i would by an other but there is no distributor in Canada

I started riding Yamaha Ebikes 3 years ago. My system has 5 lights so each morning i start at 5 lights, full charge. From hundreds of days my observation is i receive about 22% of the potential on each of the firtst 4 lights. My last is time to reach home, maybe 10-12% of the full potential.

Admit it, you had some double cheese. What was it?

I always want a back up. 2 bikes is my minimum.

From my experience and what i read i would suggest for a reliable and affordable Ebike to check the Giant Trance.

Yamaha has a new one just out so it will take some months to have enough feedback.

Hi, with that distance did you find a system more reliable?

i use a lumbar bag year round. It just need a 2 inches belt and you select the size you want.

I suggest you get support from a good LBS. Check Giant if possible.