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I can only tell you when I purchased mine. Jan 2023.

After the second time the motor had to be warrantied, I start scouring the DIY part of this forum for a frame only option as a backup bike. It seems par for the course that whatever EMTB you end up with at some point you might be out a bike for a few weeks.

Different issues: - torque sensor failed - made a grinding noise that kept getting worse - gear wouldn’t engage - wobbly crank

You’re not wrong. 😑

Just got mine back from the bike shop yesterday. Fourth new motor no wobbly crank arm, we’ll see how it goes.

I don't like it but I know you're right.

100%. Crank issue I gave up on it for a few months. I ordered a CEF50 with a Bafang M820 from a factory in China but the build times were still a few months from delivery to the states. It was an experimental bike to see if I could build a bike as good as a KSL at a fraction of the cost...

Hey Josh, @joshtammi you are 100% correct even though it's loose it won't come off. I just rode mine in the same condition after taking it off putting back on, cleaning, swapping cranks tried spacers. So here's the deal.... I let it get as bad as yours told my LBS what I tried and they put a...