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Buy the bike not the motor, both are fantastic power units. Avinox is faster, Bosch CX5 has a better product cycle and your bike won't be worth nothing in 12 months :)

Going by past performance what ever it is won't get launched on the 18/6/2026

We know that there is currently a numbers game being played out between the motor manufactures but all the new features being delivered I can't help but think it's not something that I want or need. So as actual users of eMTBs - what would you like to see? More power? More efficiency? Cheaper...

Santa Cruz Vala

You can take off an additional 2kgs as your wallet will be a lot lighter too! Nice looking bike though :)

The 600% assistance gives you a little kick when you first start to ride from standing still. That's it. The 120nm doesn't do anything.

When a decent manufacturer fits an Avinox then I'll jump ship. :)

You can feel the extra assistance from 400% to 600% in 100nm at low cadence, but for me the 120nm makes zero difference. I went up some pretty steep climbs in the Peak District yesterday and just couldn't feel any difference at all. The motor is also a little more whiney at low cadence too...

There was a massive performance improvement (imho) with the 85nm to 100nm update. I think the latest update is just a marketing ploy to compete with Avinox. To be honest I'd much rather they focused on less drag when you hit the maximum support limit.

First ride out today with the new update and I can't tell the difference between 120nm and 100nm at all. If anything emtb+ at 100nm feels like the initial assistance has been dialed up. I was switching between 120nm and 100nm on the steep climbs and it felt exactly the same. According to...

I've got a really old Edge 530 and it's brilliant once you get used to the rubbish navigation.

My bike was kind-of fixed so don't need to return it. Really poor service from the store though but it was staffed by kids!

I got better service from my local coffee shop when spending £5 than I did from my bike shop when I spent £8,000.

If you are on Android just use APKMirror and you will get the update installed and running in 5 minutes. The issue is that along with the motor firmware update Bosch are also updating the UI which means that the entire app has to be replaced. I'm guessing that is why you have again two...

Yeap, boost is later this year along with the chain tensioner update

Just use APKMirror

I've just used APKMirror. Worked perfectly, all updated and new settings available in about 5 mins. You do have to watch a 30 second advert to get the install to run for free.

I'm on about my 20th attempt (at least).

Yeap, didn't work for me either using the ipad.