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120 Nm update for the Bosch CX and CX Race Announced
On the 4th of May, the new Bosch Flow app version will start rolling out in your Play or App store. It will take a few days before reaching all users. If you're impatient, uninstalling and reinstalling the app might do the trick. The latest app version allows you to download the 120 Nm firmware...- Knut Nes
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120 Nm update for the Bosch CX and CX Race Announced
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Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts I would hope a new Shimano motor would be lighter than 2.7-2.8kg as the current EP801 is just below that. But who knows. The Performance CX can be weaker than the EP801 while still being an efficient motor, can't it? It seems the power output curve is tuned differently. The CX 100... -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts Are you sure about those motor characteristics? When testing various motors using garmin power pedals, we find the EP801 ramps up just fine. When riding our test climb, the EP801 gets up the hill with a similar rider input to the Avinox at 65rpm, the CX gen5 needs more rider input... -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts How does the Shimano EP801 performance at low cadence, say 60-70 rpm compare to the Bosch CX gen5 and the Avinox M1? Also, do you recon we'll see a new Shimano motor soon? -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts Do you know the history of the Forestal range extender? Why did it take so long for it to come out? Did they have to go with a different manufacturer/supplier? -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts That's a fine list, I can't see anything wrong at first glance, it covers all the motors used on emtbs it seems. It seems the list formatting doesn't work as intended though. But I question what you go on to write below the list. l could be missing some context, but the PW-CE isn't... -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts The peak power of the PW-XM, and PW-X3 for that matter, is just 500w? Are you sure? I don't know the peak power, but it seems low for a motor that is strong at low cadence and doesn't fall off as quickly at higher cadence, like the older models did. Also, there are a few models... -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts Good morning, another 50% older today. Can you list all the pedelec motors Yamaha has ever made? I'd like a list/table showing motor name, torque, peak power if available and the year it was launched. -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
Yeah, it's even using emojis :) -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
Yeah, I've noticed these LLMs don't do well with this kind of questions, can be the same with photo equipment etc. Just going through its answers quickly I notice some weird errors, but there could be more. On its second attempt, Watts decided to include RM Instinct and Moterra SL, which is... -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts Thanks, there are some models missing though, could you include these in your list? https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/ebikes/mountainbike/light And make the list compact, no extra linespacing or indents that appear to mess up the formatting. Just the list, no elaberation. -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
@Greg Watts I guess I should have mentioned I want a list with just full suspension emtbs running the SX motor, which now is 60Nm tbw. Just a short list, no need to elaborate. -
Motor spec database for Bosch CX Gen 5 accuracy
Hey @Greg Watts , can you list all emtb models using the Bosch SX motor please? -
Avinox M2
No, not a tabless design. But it seems the m65a has an improved tab design that shortens the path which current travels. A tabless design is more complex, it's more expensive and potentially less safe. Albeit not tabless, the m65a is quite a step up from the LG m58t in every way. Except for...- knut7
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🔋 Semi-Solid-State batteries revolution!
A solid state battery was initially described as having a Li-metal anode and solid electrolyte. It was imagined reaching a gravimetric energy density of 800 Wh/kg or more. I can see no indication of Donut having built what we initially understood as a solid state battery. The density seems to...- knut7
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Article: Canyon Spectral:ON and Torque:ON - new battery and new price
I tried to ask directly, but that question wasn't answered. The 800 Wh battery has the same ammount of cells as the old 720, it's the same cell design. I guess the casing could be altered, but it obviously fits the same frame. The could be changes to mounts or the connector though, I guess...- knut7
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Article: Canyon Spectral:ON and Torque:ON - new battery and new price
I would hope that pinkbike is correct. The 4,5+ kg weight is very high. I'll check it out and possibly change the article. Flow mtb claim 4.78kg for the 900 battery, and the press release says 150g lighter. Which is quite heavy for a battery with fewer cells. 2022 Canyon Spectral:ON Review | A...- knut7
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Article: Canyon Spectral:ON and Torque:ON - new battery and new price
So, the frame and motor are unchanged, but the battery is new. Is that good enough reason to buy a Canyon Torque:ON or Spectral:ON? Canyon answers this by pointing... Read more- knut7
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Canyon Spectral:ON and Torque:ON - new battery and new price
Due to problems with the bikes’ battery housing, Canyon stopped selling the Torque:ON and Spectral:ON. Now the bikes are back. But why should you consider buying one of these now? New battery Where you previously could choose between batteries with 720 and 900 Wh capacity, today there is only...