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My current 9.8xt carbon frame 2022 does not have it nor did my previous one (2021 model) . My wife's aluminium rail (2022) also does not have it. We have done around 3000kms in total and no issues with any of the frames. I have not heard of anyone else really having it so its just an anomaly and...

Also having a rear mud guard is useful! We have this one and it works well. DEFLECTOR RS75

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Hey mate sorry to hear that... Yeah my wife had that on 4 different motors ( 2 different bikes) and the mechanics faced that same issue during their test ride on two different fuel exes... It is exactly what my wife experienced on her fuel exe as initially it was just a quiet grumbling noise and...

Would just get a refund and wait for the second gen of Fuel exes to come out so these issues would be fixed. It is not worth the time or hassle and best to just get a bike that works properly.

For the 2nd and 3rd new bikes, it was the mechanics who tested it before it developed the issue , so we did not even get to ride it …

You will just need a universal crank puller which is what I used for my wife's bike with her hope cranks. Hope that helps

Hi there I had the same error on my previous rail and it was just a firmware update! It could be the timing is coincidental.

So...my LBS replaced the fuel exe for my wife but this time it came from a different branch because the previous branch had ran out of fuel exes. The different branch did not do a full 20km test ride before giving handing it to my wife. Prior to this, our normal LBS branch had done test rides...

Hi there I believe so but will clarify with them. Our LBS is the main dealer of trek in New Zealand with multiple branches and they have been in contact with Trek everyday and trying to fix the issue meticulously. Our LBS said they are now searching for the one bike here that is working...

Yeah there are quite a few in New Zealand. In fact, it has just gone on sale … I just feel bad for the LBS who are also frustrated with the issue and have been super helpful in trying to resolve it. They think it’s a bad batch.

Hi everyone Slightly off topic but the LBS has built up another two brand new exes to test it for my wife and they started making that grinding/grumbling noise after they test rode it for ~20km. In essence, that would be the 5th faulty motor on three different exes. Our LBS is trying to...

Hi Ben just posted a video of my wife riding a track with the grinding noise present. It was pretty distracting for her. Enjoy!

Yeah trek and my LBS thought it was the motor causing the grinding noise but after three faulty motors , it seemed they gave up on the bike. In addition, it’s unlikely for all three motors to be faulty . Just hoping for my wife to receive a proper working trek exe soon as it’s been over a...

Hey mate sorry to hear that. Hopefully they will update you soon. My LBS were updating us every couple of days and replacing the motor every week for the last 3 to 4 weeks before giving us a new bike.

Hey mate, my wife is still waiting for the new fuel exe. The LBS wants to just test the new fuel exe to make sure it is working well etc first so hopefully will get it this week. With the last three motors etc, my LBS could not find out what was wrong and sent the first one back to TQ. They...

Hey mate sorry to hear your situation with your giant bike. Thankfully for my fuel exe, I managed to return it and for my wife's fuel exe, Trek have given her a new bike. Giant really should not be pinning the blame on "rider's style".

yup my rail and my wife's rail does make that noise with the cassette tugging. It is just the bosch motor rattle.

Hi Dave I also just received my rail 9.8xt and this is a video just to help compare the noise? I do not really notice anything riding downhill or uphill.

My rail 9.8xt does not really make that noise . This is a video of me riding just to help compare?