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Gary, Im not really sure why you're jumping on N1ck unless in jest. Having one more gear makes you think you are quicker

I think N1ck was saying the diff between xt/deore isn't discernible, not that he didn't notice a difference between the 2 motors Its all fine margins and a lot of it in the mind. People think they're Gee Atherton on their £7k carbon whatever then get wasted by Sam Pilgrim on freebie rigid...

Thanks Nick. Vitus confirmed there are def no more 2019s in production, its all 2020 now and nobody will say when they are expected in uk. CRC have a few base models available right now. I agree about the whole xt/slx whatever thing. We're hacks, not pro's. Appreciate your views. Maybe...

Noobie here, sorry for the crap pun. Demo'd a Trek Powerfly for a couple of days and sooooo get the e-bike thing now but I found it to be a barge and the weight bias/chainstay length not to my liking. So the E-Sommet research has been done to death today. So, there are no VRs on CRC at all...