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All is subjective, and yeah, been riding a long time. If nothing else, I know what I like, especially when I'm solo, out in the wilderness, and a whole lot of clatter and electric motor churn ain't it. A noisy motor is extremely undesirable for trail riding... Now, you don't have to agree, but I...

Did I say the most important criteria is noise? I said a quiet bike is absolutely fundamental to the trail riding aesthetic. You needn't have my 25 years experience riding mtb to know this. Stop trying to make lame excuses, no one in their right mind would take a noisy bike over a quiet one...

Thanks for your lengthy and detailed post, but I do think it's a poor engineering decision to sacrifice the stealthy quiet of the previous generation for a minor weight saving. Being in the bush, at one with the trail, enjoying the natural ambience, is primary to the mtb aesthetic. It's a...

Hmm, I thought it was more prevalent than that. Still, a 1/10 recall ain't great either. Imo, it shouldn't happen at all, wasn't an issue with the previous Brose motor. I hate motor noise, or any annoying noise when riding my bike, like disc rub for example, can't stand it.

"Blown out of proportion", he said. The motor noise is a very serious problem, relating to the most expensive component of the bike (I assume). It completely ruins the aesthetic of the bike, not some minor issue, like cable rattle, for instance. It strikes me very weird that Specialized should...

Really, you're happy to live with a screaming motor? You must be the only one. Specialized market the Turbo Levo as being virtually inaudible, and indeed, my 2017 TL Expert was just that. However, the 2019 models are LOUD as F&%K, and that is not acceptable, at all. If this was a cheap bike...

OK, so was there a QC issue with the first motor? That new video you've posted is impressive, nice and quiet. Is it a lottery, as to whether you get a loud as f%&k motor or not? What did Specialized say about the swap? Are they doing a recall?

See, this is my issue with the 2019 Turbo Levo... Not only is it hideously overpriced, it's also underspec'd. You shouldn't have to pay a premium price for a product, only to then spend another couple of grand upgrading it. The old model had better components, no need to upgrade, while the new...