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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    It seems you're already confused. Can you show me where I blamed Amflow for the warranty?
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    The triangle is light in weight. What do you see as the problem?
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    Oh, have you ever encountered any Amflow fakes? I take it you're the first one ever.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    You might not know, but the Amflow PL actually costs that much in China. It's even cheaper – less than 37,000 yuan. And that's the official price.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    Stop reading between the lines. I haven't seen anywhere where the author requested service in his own country. And servicing a Chinese frame in China seems normal.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    There are 120 people in our small local community. Seven or eight of them have a crack problem. Yes, it's a "small" batch )))
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    The world is much larger than the Amflow network of dealerships. Why can't you accept this? Also, why aren't you considering the service option in China with the author of this post? Since he received his bike from China, he could also send it back to China and get a replacement there. As I...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    No, I have a PL. I just haven't seen this issue mentioned with the PX. But they have a completely different matrix. I just got the crack on PL at the end of last week and am now waiting for a response from the dealer.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    So far I have not encountered any problems with PX, only PL.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    I'm not sure. But the crack starts where there shouldn't be a stress point—mine is located below the crack. But if the crack has appeared and is bulging under load, and the dropper post is relatively rigid, then there's clearly a problem with the seat tube itself.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    Yes, that's true. The photo (not mine) shows the layers after removing the paint.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    My dropper is positioned roughly as shown in the Amflow diagram; I’ve marked the location of the rubber component in orange. At the same time, the crack opens up starting from its midpoint—meaning that, for some reason, the primary point of stress is located precisely there.
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    You are generally right that the problem lies in the manufacturing process. I don't think the issue is specifically with the carbon layup; there are two reasons for this. First, it’s a widespread problem, but it seems linked to a specific batch or production line rather than affecting random...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    I measured the length of the dropper post inside the frame today and noticed something very interesting: the center of the crack is quite far from the bottom of the dropper. This means the issue definitely isn't caused by pressure from the end of the post itself. Also, more than ten riders have...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    I think it’s just important for them to argue)
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    I find it odd that everyone is fixated on blaming a specific person. The details regarding the dealer-supplied batch have been clear for a long time. Personally, I am more concerned about the widespread defect in Amflow frames; I have been affected by this issue myself. I’m curious to see if...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    Let’s get off our high horses for a second and use some basic logic. First off, buying an original Chinese bike from an actual shop in China is NOT "grey import" or counterfeit—it’s just a direct purchase. The manufacturer got their Yuan, the product is 100% legit, so relax. Second, the holy...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    I believe there are two issues confounding this discussion: 1. Mass defects in the seat tube area of frames (when more than 10 people have the same problem, it's already a mass incident) 2. Refusal of warranty service in the absence of official dealer contacts (though Amflow has such a...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    I can buy a smartphone anywhere and take it to any service center in the region it was intended for. Even if there are no proof of purchase, the warranty is valid from the date of manufacture. Many smartphones, including Apple ones, have an international warranty. I also haven't seen a single...
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    Amflow PL Carbon owners, check your seat tube for cracks!

    Colleague, you must understand: there is a country where there is practically no choice, which is what you described, unfortunately. I won't go into details so as not to stir up political garbage here. Regardless of this, the case of this person is also indicative.
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