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Its contnious power output over 250w or in nz's case 300w. To my knowledge the only manufacturer that well and truely exceeds that continious rating is avinox, The others are all locked down to within the rules. Hell the latest avinox can run at 1000w continious.

I think this thread topic is the why. Sure there's kids ripping around on e motos and super high powered scooters. But Avinox bikes do not comply with most countries legal definition of what is an e-bikes. They should be officially classified as a moped or motorbike. These bikes are...

What does Italy consider an E-bike?

Here's some inspiration! Yeah, I get ya annoyance. This forum is more populated with cashed up mild old aged guys more interested in the latest bike specs than ripping it up on those bikes. Any way. I enjoy the inspirational riding posts. So feel free to bombard me with inspiration. I don't...

Its all about stock holding. NZ stock holding for that model must be in a range the doesn't trigger sales.

My mate did a similar thing. Pulled down his Shimano to replace the bearings as its the right thing to do. He thought he did everything properly, put the motor back together... didnt work.... He is a rotating equipment mechanic too, so he knows his shit...... Those motors are basically a throw...

Yep. Technology is a moving fast industry. Some shops are doing it hard with stock they can't sell. I was talking to a shop owner the other day and he said sl and mid power bikes just arent selling. He had something discounted from $20k down to $12k and its still gathering dust. The down side...

Not everyone can handle or enjoys the jank.... I have a group of a good 8 nut bags that enjoy the hell out of excessive jank, both up and down.

+1 for this combined with better energy density batteries. 20kg for a 180mm/180mm zeb/coil rear mgu with hot swappable equivalent to 800wh battery in a 400wh weight would be the holy grail for me. Oh the mgu unit has to be as refined as a bosch or dji mu.

You are right that is pretty damn close on to my spec. Mullet, sub 20kg, 600wh battery 85nm torque, 150/160mm. Plus its a bunch cheaper than the others. A fully stacked Cannondale Moterra SL is $14k and lower spec models starting from $10k V base model SC vala around $14k plus the base. The...

Oh yeah, that looks real janky. I like it.

150/160 would work. 140/150 at a push maybe. 130/140 not enough.

I think its not enough travel, she's used to a 160mm bike.

have a look at magic shine. They have a range or E compatible lights. Not sure if they offer avinox options.

Check out this janky ass climb. 333 mtr vert of jaggedy barely ridable, sometimes not ridable jank. Its hard to show the steepness. But rest assured that there's plenty of so steep you can easily loop out sections. I haven't cleaned this yet, but I think it might be possible in the dry. As its...

My missis rides with other ladies and some of them have full power bikes. So an sl wont cut the mustard if she rides with the full power ladies.

Id take the wild, I could use it for a very back up.for my good bike, boom shucks lucky. Bying one specifically for the missis, vala but the carbon version.

Hold on, what am I missing? I was in the specialized shop the other day and they had the sl's which are too gutless and the full powers sitting around 23kg. There wasnt anything in the 20kg range.

Ahhh, now i know who im talking too... Well, putting my daughter rise on a diet is another option too. By far the cheapest option to be honest. It could be that my missis isnt getting on with the average parts spec and if i fruited it up, make it lighter she might enjoy it more.

600wh unno would be cool, but not available in nz.