Epic Sarn Helen ride incoming, Any advice appreciated.

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So my missus has convinced me to do the Sarn Helen route at the end June, Initially on the analogue enduros 😱. You used the art of negotiation and convinced her to take the ebikes 😃(cube 177).

We are aiming to do this in four days. We are ordering a 2 spare batteries(600WH) and planning a cafe stop halfway through the day to get some rest and charge.

I am after any advice if you have done this trip or similar, plus thoughts on the best settings to maximise battery. A good tow rope in case of motor faliure, best places to stop along the way for food and charge.
 
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Sounds nuts, I like it. https://www.roughrideguide.co.uk/route-details/282
I have done a few coast-to-coasts. never on an eeb. All I would suggest really is lots of saddle time in preperation. Good padded shorts (even double-paired towards the end)
Pack light, pack decent snacks, lots of fluids and a decent sense of humour.
 
Sounds nuts, I like it. https://www.roughrideguide.co.uk/route-details/282
I have done a few coast-to-coasts. never on an eeb. All I would suggest really is lots of saddle time in preperation. Good padded shorts (even double-paired towards the end)
Pack light, pack decent snacks, lots of fluids and a decent sense of humour.
Sounds nuts, I like it. https://www.roughrideguide.co.uk/route-details/282
I have done a few coast-to-coasts. never on an eeb. All I would suggest really is lots of saddle time in preperation. Good padded shorts (even double-paired towards the end)
Pack light, pack decent snacks, lots of fluids and a decent sense of humour.
Good point with the shorts, I dont on a pair. I will definitely be investing in them. I will take a hydration pack and a bottle and top up midway through the day. If I do 30-40 miles on the analogue I go through alot of water and maybe a bottle on the ebike.
 
Sounds like a great adventure!

I swear by Rapha Brevet shorts. Not cheap but I wore them for the Tour Divide and averaged a century 24 days in a row...

I've got one of the £10 tow ropes from amazon. No issues towing either my daughter or missus in Wales when I'm on the Levo and they're on normal bikes.

It might be worth planning some stops and ringing ahead to check it's OK to charge at a particular Cafe and have a cheap double socket extender handy...

Make sure you give us a write up with some pics when you're done!
 
Sounds like a great adventure!

I swear by Rapha Brevet shorts. Not cheap but I wore them for the Tour Divide and averaged a century 24 days in a row...

I've got one of the £10 tow ropes from amazon. No issues towing either my daughter or missus in Wales when I'm on the Levo and they're on normal bikes.

It might be worth planning some stops and ringing ahead to check it's OK to charge at a particular Cafe and have a cheap double socket extender handy...

Make sure you give us a write up with some pics when you're done!
Good idea with the extension lead. I will try my best to get a few pictures.
 
I did the Sarn Helen on a Fairlight Holt with two small panniers and frame bags last summer (28kg total). There's hike-a-bike on multiple small sections of this route, mostly in the north and middle. On one occasion, I was following the line on my GPS, as the trail had disappeared underfoot, and expect a bit of clambering over fallen trees due to plantation felling. It's a wild route and was very satisfying to finish. Definitely type 2 fun in places, but a top adventure. I did Conwy to Swansea in 5 days. Days 1 to 3 I camped. Day 4 I stayed at the YHA in Brecon. And on day 5, at the finish, I stayed at the Premier Inn in Sawnsea, as Premier Inn has a policy that allows cycle tourists to keep their bikes in the hotel room, which is cool!

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I did the Sarn Helen on a Fairlight Holt with two small panniers and frame bags last summer (28kg total). There's hike-a-bike on multiple small sections of this route, mostly in the north and middle. On one occasion, I was following the line on my GPS, as the trail had disappeared underfoot, and expect a bit of clambering over fallen trees due to plantation felling. It's a wild route and was very satisfying to finish. Definitely type 2 fun in places, but a top adventure. I did Conwy to Swansea in 5 days. Days 1 to 3 I camped. Day 4 I stayed at the YHA in Brecon. And on day 5, at the finish, I stayed at the Premier Inn in Sawnsea, as Premier Inn has a policy that allows cycle tourists to keep their bikes in the hotel room, which is cool!

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Sounds epic, We are packing light and getting Airbnb along the way. We are planning a deviation on the route so we end up in Merthyr for the final section. Same distance, saves getting back after. The only part im not looking forward to are the road sections as I genuinely don't like riding on them.
 
North to South Wales: 4 Days, 240 Miles, and Zero Planning.

We’ve just completed an incredible point-to-point ride across Wales. The whole trip took us four days, not including our initial evening travelling up to North Wales.My partner and I had initially decided to cancel the trip due to an injury. However, we already had the week booked off work, and at the absolute last minute, we decided to just go for it. We had no plan, no accommodation booked, and zero preparation. We hastily assembled our Spider Rack storage systems, packed our clothes, and set off on e-bikes that weighted well over 30kg.Our journey didn't start quite as smoothly as hoped; we were refused entry onto the train at Crewe because we hadn't reserved bike spaces (you learn something new every day!). After sorting an alternative, we finally arrived at our first hotel on the outskirts of Conwy at 12:30 AM after a quick 6-mile night ride.

Day 1: Conwy to Rhyd (Approx. 48 miles, including the midnight ride)I forgot to press record on the Garmin until we were 5 or 6 miles into the day. Part of this section was absolutely awesome. At one point, there were no actual paths, and the route showed as "impassable" on OS maps. We found ourselves up to our knees in bogs, dragging heavy bikes—and I genuinely loved it. The miserable Welsh weather only added to the rugged atmosphere and enjoyment.


Day 2: Rhyd to Machynlleth (Approx. 55 miles)This section was probably our least favourite day, purely due to the logistics. The scenery was awesome and the mountain bike trails were brilliant (very similar to Day 1), but our momentum was constantly broken by over 50 gates that we had to open and close along the way.

Day 3: Machynlleth to Ponterwyd (30 miles)This was our shortest riding day, featuring amazing scenery and brilliant trails—with one major exception. We hit a pathless bog section that took us a grueling 2 to 3 hours to cover just 4 miles. Deep ruts left behind by dirt bikes were hidden under thick vegetation, which successfully ejected me from my bike several times. However, the struggle was worth it: we spotted a sheep stuck up to its head in the bog. It certainly would have met its demise if we had opted for an easier route, so we paused to pull it free and save its life.

Day 4: Ponterwyd to Merthyr Tydfil (107 miles)We had been carrying a spare battery the entire trip without using it yet, and honestly, we couldn't stomach the thought of another night in a hotel. We decided to push all the way through. It was a wonderful, epic section. We stopped in Rhayader first, and then Builth Wells for food, a quick battery charge, and a battery swap. Riding through the mountains towards Talybont-on-Usk and into Merthyr at 3:00 AM was my partner’s absolute favourite part of the entire trip. The sheer amount of wildlife we encountered in the dead of night made the long haul entirely worth it.

The Verdict Overall, it was a lovely experience. The unpredictable weather, challenging trails, and the random, kind people we encountered along the way made every mile worth it. A massive shoutout to every single cafe and restaurant we stopped at for food—they all accommodated our bikes, let us charge our batteries, and stored them safely, as did the hotels.

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