Finalized my top three help me choose!

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Is it still just two? Because it looks like it's still just two. Any advance on two?

I didn't say Orbea make bad bikes,
I didn't say you did, talking of arguing against non existent points & no, never owned an Orbea.
 
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Well, I have the Vala 90 so my biased opinion is get the Santa Cruz Carbon Vala... I think their promo of a free Range Extender is still on (wasn't when I got mine). Super Bike, I've used the Range Extender only once thus far. 600Wh is more than plenty for a 2:00-2:30hr ride. I'm +/- 200lb. Cheers! 😎
 
Never thought I'd see classism on an emtb forum LOL, to be expected from a shandy drinker though I guess ey?

I'm just relaying a friends experience. If you can read outside the box their approach to warranty isn't just on frame bearings. Crack a seatstay? good luck. There's a bloke on youtube who documented the warranty issues he had with orbea on his 2023 wild, including supply chain issues, QC issues on warranty parts and other bits.
For me, seeing a friends experience and a well documented experience on youtube would be enough to sway me. Especially when a couple of lads I know with SC megatower and nomad have had great experiences with SC, would affect my decision making.
One cracked the head tube after a crash on a gap jump on his nomad, paid 550 quid to SC and got a whole new front triangle.
Another needed frame bearings for his megatower, emailed SC with his address, serial number and proof of purchase and had a full set of frame bearings land at his door 48hrs later with no questions asked.

Trek, Santa Cruz, Giant & Spesh are well known for freakin' amazing warranties with really no questions asked.

I have a buddy that keeps his Santa Cruz bikes chained on his work truck every day just in case we can break away to ride (we are both business owners with weird schedules) and in the TX sun, after a few years the paint begins to come off. They (Santa Cruz) have upgraded his Bronson frames 2x due to peeling paint and each time he jumped up a generation. Dude bought a Bronson in like 2015 and now has like a 2023 model and all he paid for was I think a new shock and I think even boost & mullet wheels in there somewhere.
Now of course, he rides a Santa Cruz e-bike.

But you do pay for it a bit up front.
 
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