EnduroIntern
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What's better?
Talk me out of a Yeti 160e
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LowStandards
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They're all the same frankly
Unless you're a pro rider I doubt you'd notice the difference between a few degrees on the head angle or if your shocks are coated in fake placebo gold
And hav'nt we all decided anything but the Amflow is a silly decision these days
Unless you're a pro rider I doubt you'd notice the difference between a few degrees on the head angle or if your shocks are coated in fake placebo gold
And hav'nt we all decided anything but the Amflow is a silly decision these days
Amflow is not the silver bullet, other motors, ZF and Centrix push out very similar numbers, a very good Youtube channel, Alex Bike Tester throws a lot of sense on motor options and quite a lot of shade over the claims about the Avinox option, and you don't have to be a dentist to afford a Yeti, they're one of the most competitively priced options available when compared to Orbea, Specialized, Scott and Santa Cruz.They're all the same frankly
Unless you're a pro rider I doubt you'd notice the difference between a few degrees on the head angle or if your shocks are coated in fake placebo gold
And hav'nt we all decided anything but the Amflow is a silly decision these days
LowStandards
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I'm playing mate :*
Buy what you like the look of really, that's the only difference
Buy what you like the look of really, that's the only difference
vman
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I am the same height as you and test rode both medium and large - when you say it felt small - what are you referring to ? In the saddle or out of the saddle descending ? With proper saddle position and bar choice I can make my Medium Yeti's seated cockpit feel very close to my large Trek Rail. As far as how the bike feels while standing on the pedals - the 460 reach on the medium is fantastic when carving up tight trails or navigating climbs with tight switchbacks- it was way better for me than the large Yeti. The only time the large frame feels better to me is going straight down very chunky terrain at speed where the wider platform to balance on makes it easier to just plow over things. Note - I called Yeti and asked them there thoughts and they suggested I go with the medium and pointed me to some of their pro Enduror and EWS riders that are my same height that are ridding a medium instead of sizing up to the large.
EnduroIntern
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Well, there she is
Welcome to the club, the colour option you have chosen is I think the best,enjoy your smiles in your miles.
EnduroIntern
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Went with Factory upgrade
Xt breaks
And xt di2 11 speed linkglide
First time with electronic shifting. Free shift is really cool. Hope longevity will hold up to the marketing.
Xt breaks
And xt di2 11 speed linkglide
First time with electronic shifting. Free shift is really cool. Hope longevity will hold up to the marketing.
Yep. I upgraded my Shimano transmission to the XT Di2 11 speed linkglide. More for the full power shifting than Autoshift. Free shift is good, but sometimes the chainwheel doesn't spool, and if you don't realise. You can crash the derailleur into the cassette, by shifting too many times without the chainwheel rotating ...... Ask me how I know ......
mark022
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how is the battery range what your getting in full charge?
i have my local dealer here have the 2025 yeti 160e C2 with fox factory upgrade and the price are the same with the 2025 Orbea Wild M20
Yeti have the better suspension and parts spec
Wild M20 have the new gen 5 Bosch Motor with 750wh battery
i am heavy rider 245lbs
i have my local dealer here have the 2025 yeti 160e C2 with fox factory upgrade and the price are the same with the 2025 Orbea Wild M20
Yeti have the better suspension and parts spec
Wild M20 have the new gen 5 Bosch Motor with 750wh battery
i am heavy rider 245lbs
vman
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245 lbs is fine for Yeti suspension range setup. Whether or not 630 watt battery is enough for you depends on where you ride, how far you ride, and how fit you are. You can always buy a spare battery to carry for big days, but if you have to use one everyday you probably need to go with the bike with a bigger battery. Our family has two 160 e and two Trek rails - both my wife and I prefer the shimano powered yeti over the treks just about on every trail and trail condition.
EnduroIntern
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I'm 87kg ~190lbs fully kitted.
Recently got 1400m ~4600ft of elevation on one ride, which is the most I ever got. I mostly ride in trail mode and only use turbo on truly steep stuff.
I do try to make an effort of every ride, and not use it as an uplift.
So your milage may vary.
For me, and the folks I ride with, which have 750 wh batteries, I don't feel any shortage.
My legs make up for the missing wh, which is fine by me.
Or you could wait for the new SL bike, supposed to be released next month. It’s a slimmer version of the 160e based off of the SB140 with the new TQ60 motor/580 battery.
I would pass on the current 160e, it hasn’t been updated in forever and IMO Shimano is no longer relevant in the e-bike world. I had the older EP8 version, loved the bike as it has one of the best suspension platforms on the market but the rattle drove me bonkers. If Yeti ditched Shimano I’d be first in line waiting for one.
I would pass on the current 160e, it hasn’t been updated in forever and IMO Shimano is no longer relevant in the e-bike world. I had the older EP8 version, loved the bike as it has one of the best suspension platforms on the market but the rattle drove me bonkers. If Yeti ditched Shimano I’d be first in line waiting for one.
mark022
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the trail we have here are more technical and i ride only 35km max not go further on that on my rail 5 gen 3 500wh im getting 22km max
vman
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We have one EP8 and one EP801 yeti and we have no rattle issues at all. The Shimano rattle and Bosch rattle have never been big issues on any of our bikes, some manufacturers implemented things better than others to reduce the motor noises. As far as low power TQ or Fazua bikes they are more quiet and a bit lighter but if you ride with folks on full power bikes on steep trails you will get dropped by the group pretty easily. Also reliability of the lower power motor systems has been awful for the most part so there is that to consider.
I like it a lot. I actually just ordered a Pivot Shuttle AM yesterday but I looked hard at the Yeti. The only knock for me was the 625ish WH battery and no extender, That would rule out any really long rides I like to do. An extender would have made it #1.. Still, it would be great for 90% of my rides. Anyway, the Shuttle came with a 800wh battery plus it can use extenders so I went that way. It was also on sale. If you like the Yeti, get it. I really like the way Yetis ride. Id fact my first FS bike bak in 2004 was the ASR-SL with the titanium flexpivot, followed by the 575. Yeti are also local to me. They are always in my top 3 when I look for a new bike.
I had mine for about 6 months, it was rattle free for the first 2.5 months. After that it sounded like it had bolts rattling around inside the motor. I have misophonia so certain noises drive me bonkers, I couldn’t ride the bike without wanting to toss it off the side of the mountain. It’s a great bike, still one of the best suspension platforms out there IMO.
I’ll probably look at the new SL, 95% of my rides are solo these days. I tend to find I like people less and less as I get older.
The positive is that Shimano does have a new battery, it’s a 712wh that’s the same size as the 630wh. It’s a direct replacement for it from what I was told.
Baiton-20
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I know this thread is a few months old, so now that you've had your 160e for a while would you recommend it?
I'm 30 months in on my 160e and still love it, yest it could have more power and yes it could have more range but you can't really compare what is to what was available at the time, it still bears most things going down and is no slouch going up, I also have a Pivot Shuttle LT, it rides lighter but can't compete with the Yeti when things get really gnarly.
Baiton-20
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Amazing, thanks for the info. That's really helpful!
Bogdan_CH
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Ride the best bike with Shitmano EP801 and then try any bike with the Bosch Gen 5 and it will answer alot of questions. Right now I would see buying a EP801 bike going backwards even though the frame is great and could be at a discounted price, the value will drop dramatically in short time and the experience is not there.
EnduroIntern
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It's the best bike I ever had, so quite biased.
It was a dream build, speced with all the best available at that time, and for the first time it was a bike I didn't need or want to upgrade anything on.
For a similar build on the LTe I'd probably need to pay 50% more.
For me the power and range are enough. My fellow riders are on Bosch gen 4, so we are all at similar power. I also like my rides to be a workout, and stick to trail throughout the ride.
Most importantly, it puts a smile on my face everytime I point it downwards.
EP801 is great motor, even it’s not perfect. I’d take great handling bike with Shimano anyday over shit handling bike with other “better” motors.
vman
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Agreed - Yeti 160 E handling once you get them up to speed is at another level.
Agreed — the Shimano EP801 is an excellent motor. Ours have been completely trouble-free, and we’re careful not to blast water into them when cleaning. The power delivery feels natural, and noise levels are minimal. For clarity, the older EP8 (EP800) provides noticeably less assist than the Bosch CX (2020–2023), but the EP801 feels right on par.
For rides under 23 miles and about 4,000 feet of climbing in Trail mode, at 215 lbs I get plenty of range from the 630 Wh battery. My wife, who weighs significantly less, gets even more. The 630 keeps the bike lighter and more nimble — moving up to a 750 Wh or 800 Wh pack just means hauling unnecessary weight for most of our weekday rides.
For bigger days (weekend rides), each of us has a second battery. We either plan a mid-point swap or carry the spare wrapped in bubble wrap inside a large CamelBak. This setup lets us reach roughly 45 miles and over 8,000 feet of climbing — which is about our limit for consecutive off-road days.
That said, the latest systems like the DJI, new Turbo Levo, and Bosch motors have superior displays, more customization options, and can probably stretch to 40 miles with 6,000–8,000 feet of climbing using the main battery plus a range extender. Still, for our typical sub-23-mile rides, those setups would just add unnecessary weight. Higher-power motors also draw more current in their top modes, which could mean needing a 750 Wh or 800 Wh pack just to match the range we already get from a 630 Wh on the EP801. In that case, we’d still want a second battery for big rides — only larger and heavier.
In the end, e-bikes are remarkable machines. We’re lucky to live in a time when technology like this exists. You really can’t go wrong with any modern e-bike — as long as you have the time to get out and ride it.
Agreed — the Shimano EP801 is an excellent motor. Ours have been completely trouble-free, and we’re careful not to blast water into them when cleaning. The power delivery feels natural, and noise levels are minimal. For clarity, the older EP8 (EP800) provides noticeably less assist than the Bosch CX (2020–2023), but the EP801 feels right on par.
For rides under 23 miles and about 4,000 feet of climbing in Trail mode, at 215 lbs I get plenty of range from the 630 Wh battery. My wife, who weighs significantly less, gets even more. The 630 keeps the bike lighter and more nimble — moving up to a 750 Wh or 800 Wh pack just means hauling unnecessary weight for most of our weekday rides.
For bigger days (weekend rides), each of us has a second battery. We either plan a mid-point swap or carry the spare wrapped in bubble wrap inside a large CamelBak. This setup lets us reach roughly 45 miles and over 8,000 feet of climbing — which is about our limit for consecutive off-road days.
That said, the latest systems like the DJI, new Turbo Levo, and Bosch motors have superior displays, more customization options, and can probably stretch to 40 miles with 6,000–8,000 feet of climbing using the main battery plus a range extender. Still, for our typical sub-23-mile rides, those setups would just add unnecessary weight. Higher-power motors also draw more current in their top modes, which could mean needing a 750 Wh or 800 Wh pack just to match the range we already get from a 630 Wh on the EP801. In that case, we’d still want a second battery for big rides — only larger and heavier.
In the end, e-bikes are remarkable machines. We’re lucky to live in a time when technology like this exists. You really can’t go wrong with any modern e-bike — as long as you have the time to get out and ride it.
Bogdan_CH
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I totally agree on the bike handly , geo etc. is far more important than the motor, but even YETI went to Bosch and dumped Shitmano and many other nice bikes with good Geo.
I had two friends with EP801, different brands (Intense and Scor) that had unexpected issues with the motor and the batteries after a rainy day. The clunk is annoying but reliability is not there unfortunately. Power is decently enough but the range again, is way below a Gen 5 Bosch with an 800wh can provide.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the bike just that even though a Yeti will provide a heavy discount, even 50% off RRP it's still alot of $$$ where you can still get a decent Norco Sight VLT, the new Trek Rail with decent build just to name a few anre your way more future proof.
If I remember right, even the latest Intense came with EP800 and that's totally different from EP801...anyway, I would probably buy also bike with the new Bosch (if it rides exlellent), didn't like the old CX4, but new one is probaly best there is. Even that it have had some problems...and still some bike brands offer it with Bosch pathetic rubber flap charging port cover...which should be prohibit by law
Bogdan_CH
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Inded, it was EP8, but still very similar to the EP801 and now he's waiting for two months for someone to source a motor that failed after 4 months / 1000 kms. This thing would dissapoint alot of people regardless of how good the geo etc. is.
The only thing that Bosch lacks is esthetics but it scores very high in all other deparments so if you can find one that fits I think it's a better overall package, including a plastic charging port
The only thing that Bosch lacks is esthetics but it scores very high in all other deparments so if you can find one that fits I think it's a better overall package, including a plastic charging port
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