Gen 4 not only comes with a more powerful motor, but also a larger battery.
I have the exact same short list... add the Transition Regulator... Interested in data also.
I know I drank the kool-aid but SW Levo Gen 4 has:I have the exact same short list... add the Transition Regulator... Interested in data also.
That would be correct if the TWO motors had the same current draw, which they don't. So the new motor can draw significantly more amps and at max setting (anything xx/100) it really eats up the battery. The larger battery was added to offset this difference, but it does not equate to a one for one equivalent with the Gen3.
I best not throw another bike in the mixI have the exact same short list... add the Transition Regulator... Interested in data also.
these 2 are already keeping me awake 
lots of plus's there for sure....but will that Class 3 mode work in the UK?... wonder if it could void warranty if so
IMO no bike without class 3 should be a contender. Class 1 cutoff is a real thing, a real crappy thing, the sensation of that cutoff is dangerous and honestly defeats the purpose.
You don't ride over 20mph on your trails?
So, you also don't need a car that can go over 70 because, its totally useless in CA because, 70 is the speed limit on all CA freeways!!
No. I just have never seen an mtb trail where it's possible or reasonable to go more than 20mph on the flat or uphill.
What about down hill?
Maybe? I don't have a speedo. Going faster downhill is always provided by gravity. If I want to go faster, I brake less.
Don't you have a Levo? I mean there is a speedo right on the display.
Neither my Gen2 nor my other half's Gen3 has a speedo on the display.
Trigger pulled. Ordered the Vala with the range extenderI have the exact same short list... add the Transition Regulator... Interested in data also.
Sorry for your loss?Trigger pulled. Ordered the Vala with the range extender
lol. Having second thoughts lol. The range is concerning me. Might cancel Vala in morning !
Nah! I have a Bullit and I have used my range extender only twice so far. And when i do I don’t even notice it and forget about it
what range / climb are you getting out the Bullit (and what do you weigh if you don't mind me asking lol)
22 miles and 3200 ft with 6% remaining. But that was riding hard in EMTB in a bit over 2 hours. Im sure i could get 30 miles if i stretched things ou more and went easier. I weigh 195 geared up
I’m looking for more than that where I ride in UK and I’m 20kgs heavier so the Vala probably isn’t the bike then.
Well if you want more the range extender is really no big deal and i dont notice it affecting my ride
I did what I could, considering it was a test on an ebike I'm not very familiar with and, therefore, I wasn't able to set up properly to make a more objective comparison. In any case, it's not so much fuel consumption that worries me, nor even its dynamic capabilities, but rather the philosophy behind this new Levo. I simply would have liked a lighter ebike with an integrated battery, a bit like that Chinese bike that's all the buzz right now, which I can't wait to try out and decide which one is my new toy.
Seems to be the case.
I have genuinely lost count of the amount of people that have had ride on my AMflow and then immediately gone out and bought one. It’s as if there other EMTBs, then there’s an AMflow DJI combo, it moves in its own orbit.
If the bike had a different motor such as the new Bosch CX Gen 5 with 750watts/100nm would you find the bike equally impressive?
Good question.
Well it would look like a big fat chonk for a start if it had a battery by specialized or bosch fitted, which is far from ideal. I dont want my next bike to be fatter than my 5 year old one. Dji are the only ones doing it right.
It reminds me of when McLaren first came into the Supercar market with its Injection resin Tub cars. Upto this this used in mega expensive cars. They made other sports car makers go back to the drawing boards. Let’s hope some learn that they can’t just take there customers for granted that they will continue to buy the next one that comes out just because it has there sticker on the side.
