How many wh of battery do you burn in an hour?

[Plummet]

We should share your weight, bike weight.
Your E bike motor type /battery size and travel.

I'm running

Bosch CX Gen5
400wh and 600wh batteries
Bike weight 21.8kg with 400wh and 22.8kg with 600wh.
Bike travel 180mm
I'm 77kg

I've come to the conclusion that I range between 130wh and 260 wh/hr.

130 wh being mostly tour + milking my 400wh battery as long as i can without going into too much Tour +
260 wh being a full boost Enduro race smashing full pace/full turbo the entire time.

PS, I refuse to ride in eco for any distance. I will ride my mtb's before i go Eco on the E.

What ya got team.

 

[Amber Valley Guy]

Try doing 30 miles/ 48km and 1400m/ 4400ft circuits regularly and you'll understand why we have Eco. Refusing to use eco, is a fools game unless you're only doing short sub 2hr rides.

 

[Doomanic]

How many Wh do I use per hour?

 

[Plummet]

Try doing 30 miles/ 48km and 1400m/ 4400ft circuits regularly and you'll understand why we have Eco. Refusing to use eco, is a fools game unless you're only doing short sub 2hr rides.

My main point with not using eco much (i'll use it to get home if i'm low on battery) is if i am going to do a ride that slow, i'll take my mountain bike and enjoy the reduced weight slowly pedaling that around for the day. For me the E is about going faster and getting more vert per hour than what i can do on my MTB.

PS I can do you spec of 1400 vert 48km spec on one 600wh battery without punching eco. Below is similar and I had battery left.

FYI. Both of these were on the same day. 29km bellow was the morning session and above was the afternoon session.
With a battery swap out mid day.

 

[Plummet]

450wh which is half the battery. 15 miles and climbing 2000' .Double that almost daily

And the rest of the data? Duration. Rider weight, bike motor.... etc.

 

[Winford]

And the rest of the data? Duration. Rider weight, bike motor.... etc.

5X a week 2 hour ride 30 miles 4000' climbed
186lb rider
Canyon spectral ON CF8 47lbs EP801 900w battery 160/150
2,712 miles for 2025
350,938' climbed for 2025

 

[Winford]

Refusing to use eco

Is the best way to increase skill and the best way to score KOMs and top 10 trophies

 

[Plummet]

5X a week 2 hour ride 30 miles 4000' climbed
186lb rider
Canyon spectral ON CF8 47lbs EP801 900w battery 160/150
2,712 miles for 2025
350,938' climbed for 2025

So if im reading this correctly

2 hours, 30 miles 4000 for a full battery burn of a 900wh?
So you are smashing 450wh/hr?
or is there some battery left at the end?

I'm assuming you are full turbo the whole way?

 

[Winford]

or is there some battery left at the end?

It has 5 bars and when I get home 99% of the time im on the last red bar. I usually get within 5 mile range. So yes I burn through the whole 900w battery each ride.

I'm assuming you are full turbo the whole way?

80% of the time or more. I get a lot of KOMs and Trophies, but I use trail mode a little just to make sure I can get home.

2 hours, 30 miles 4000' for a full battery burn of a 900wh?

Yes most of the time, depending on where im riding. Im lucky I have close to a 100 miles of trails from my house, and 80 miles only 20 min away, and an hour drive another 100 or more. I live in the endurance capitol of the world.

 

[Mikerb]

The variables will alsoinclude what tyres are being used, what tyre pressures, trail conditions, ambient temperature, wind. What mode you use does not necessarilly dictate battery capacity used either, since every mode has a range of motor assist dependant on rider torque input and cadence.
So the only real comparison possible is the same rider on the same bike, same tyres sam pressures, on the same trail, with the same trail and weather conditions......done twice.

 

[Plummet]

The variables will alsoinclude what tyres are being used, what tyre pressures, trail conditions, ambient temperature, wind. What mode you use does not necessarilly dictate battery capacity used either, since every mode has a range of motor assist dependant on rider torque input and cadence.
So the only real comparison possible is the same rider on the same bike, same tyres sam pressures, on the same trail, with the same trail and weather conditions......done twice.

It would be nice to get some data points however. So far only one person has responded with some data.
I'm interested in the spread of wh usage across users.
Of course there is many use cases. Thus the discussion of milage isnt considered. It is so varied dependent on terrain. Hours of use is a more consistent measure to compare.

What is yours?

 

[Winford]

real comparison

Not really. Over the last 14 months with different tires and weather conditions I average about 400-450 hour with a pretty tight frequency.

None of us are after exact facts here, but generally speaking 400 an hour for average riding, and 450 for pushing it covers 99% of us. Only other option is a little less for our slow rolling eco lovers. and SL riders or other light battery options. For full power class 1, this is just the average, and how real world statistics play out.

 

[Amber Valley Guy]

My main point with not using eco much (i'll use it to get home if i'm low on battery) is if i am going to do a ride that slow, i'll take my mountain bike and enjoy the reduced weight slowly pedaling that around for the day. For me the E is about going faster and getting more vert per hour than what i can do on my MTB.

PS I can do you spec of 1400 vert 48km spec on one 600wh battery without punching eco. Below is similar and I had battery left.

View attachment 163699

FYI. Both of these were on the same day. 29km bellow was the morning session and above was the afternoon session.
With a battery swap out mid day.

View attachment 163700

There's no way I can do that without using eco mode (630wh bat) hence my post. Then again Shimano's aren't great on power usage compared to say a Bosch of 625wh. As for what you want Sams Bikes on YouTube is probably the closest you'll get and he's done it for you when he does his motor/battery range tests. Check him out, YouTube.

 

[Just gan]

Try doing 30 miles/ 48km and 1400m/ 4400ft circuits regularly and you'll understand why we have Eco. Refusing to use eco, is a fools game unless you're only doing short sub 2hr rides.

Yes turbo all the time climbing would be great but if like you say you like a 30 plus miles and a lot of climbing I use eco a lot. I tested range on new levo six weeks ago all on eco , got 44 miles 4800 feet climbing.

 

[Chairman]

I consistently get around 300 wh . I generally drain my 625 in a little over 2 hrs and around 1000 metres vert. Mostly turbo but drop to emtb on occasions to conserve a little

 

[jeanmarc]

In 2025 my average is 126Wh/h with a peak of 177Wh/h for trail riding. I mostly use power level 3 of 5 on my Giant Reign E+2, 625Wh battery and I’m +/- 93kg with kit. I practically never use turbo.
Other years:
2024 average 103 wh/h, peak 217 wh/h
2023 average 112 wh/h, peak 207 wh/h
Been tracking this to best define my needs for a future bike (hopefully this year! )
Cheers!

 

[steve_sordy]

After 8 weeks off the bike, I know that I am using the gears differently (ie slower) for what feels like the same effort. So, rider fitness and leg strength obviously matter, in addition to all the things that @Mikerb mentioned.

 

[GunnarNyb]

Hi.

I intentionally used up all of my battery yesterday, on a trip with approx 20 % on tracks (partly very rocky and steep), rest on roads.

Facts:

Body weight: 65 kg, bottle and backpack +2 kg​

Bike: Orbea Rise M20 2021 (20.5 kg with pedals, foam tire inserts, bottle cage etc)​

Motor: Shimano EP8​

Battery: Orbea internal 360 Wh (I assume it still has this capacity...)​

​

Trip data: Distance 47 km. Elapsed time 3:08. Moving time 2:54. Elevation gain: 800 m (Strava, Garmin 900 m)

I used 360 Wh with 2.9 hours moving time, so 124 Wh/hr.​

Use per km: 360/47 = 7.7 Wh/km (my Tesla M3 typically uses 150 Wh/km, or ~20x as much)​

The elevation gain accounts for approx 190 Wh, or 53% of the total consumption!​

I used my Profile 2, which I had set up to be very aggressive, see attached picture from Shimano's E-Tube app.

The pic shows the Trail mode, with blue and yellow dots showing the Eco and Boost modes, respectively.​

White dots (not easy to see) show Shimano's defaults for the Trail mode (as implemented in Profile 1 on my bike)​

On asphalt roads I used Eco mode 90% of the time, since I can easily maintain 20-25 km/h. On tracks mostly Trail mode, some tricky parts Eco mode, since even Trail was too aggressive. Only used Boost a few seconds...​

Based on this trip, I will dial back the Eco and Trail modes, they were way too aggressive.

 

[JP-NZ]

I'm going to pickup my Rail in a couple of weeks so will be able to add some data to this. I lent it to an ebike-less mate to demo in February. I think he should have had enough use of it by now

 

[Just gan]

I'm going to pickup my Rail in a couple of weeks so will be able to add some data to this. I lent it to an ebike-less mate to demo in February. I think he should have had enough use of it by now

I need a friend like you.

 

[JP-NZ]

We should share your weight, bike weight.
Your E bike motor type /battery size and travel.

I'm running

Bosch CX Gen5
400wh and 600wh batteries
Bike weight 21.8kg with 400wh and 22.8kg with 600wh.
Bike travel 180mm
I'm 77kg

I've come to the conclusion that I range between 130wh and 260 wh/hr.

130 wh being mostly tour + milking my 400wh battery as long as i can without going into too much Tour +
260 wh being a full boost Enduro race smashing full pace/full turbo the entire time.

PS, I refuse to ride in eco for any distance. I will ride my mtb's before i go Eco on the E.

What ya got team.

Well I jumped back into some older Data for my Rail

Bosch CX Gen 4
750wh Battery
Bike weight is 23.6kg
Travel is 160mm
I'm 110Kg

60km with 1395m of elevation over 3 1/4 hours riding. (37.5 miles / 4576 feet). Mostly Tour+ and 4-5% in EMTB (No turbo).

Came home with 17% battery spare. Range was showing another 15km in Tour+.



So by my limited calculation skills thats around 190wh per hour?

 

[JP-NZ]

My main point with not using eco much (i'll use it to get home if i'm low on battery) is if i am going to do a ride that slow, i'll take my mountain bike and enjoy the reduced weight slowly pedaling that around for the day. For me the E is about going faster and getting more vert per hour than what i can do on my MTB.

PS I can do you spec of 1400 vert 48km spec on one 600wh battery without punching eco. Below is similar and I had battery left.

View attachment 163699

FYI. Both of these were on the same day. 29km bellow was the morning session and above was the afternoon session.
With a battery swap out mid day.

View attachment 163700

Be good to see some average speed, strava avg power and or Cal burn too?

 

[Plummet]

Be good to see some average speed, strava avg power and or Cal burn too?

ave speed is hugely variable. I did 500 vert last night 45 mins 2km...... fricken steep semi ridable hike a bike.

 

[nrgbod]

Amflow PL carbon Pro (med) with Avinox M1 motor
800Wh battery plus 400Wh range extender (1200Wh total)
Bike weight 20.6kg plus 1720g range extender
Bike travel 160/ 150mm
I'm 82kg +2kg backpack
Tyres Magic Mary pro and Albert pro, both Ultra soft radial trail casing.
Trail conditions soft but not wet, after previous nights light rain. 24C ambient with fresh wind.

Bike measured 60.0ml over 5h:50m moving time with 208W average motor power for the full ride.
Strava/ Fenix7 measured 58.11 ml and 7959ft of climbing with 6:19 moving time.
I completed the first 30miles in turbo/ trail with several attempts at KOM climbs and was averaging over 300W motor power according to the bike display.
for the next 20 miles I dropped down to trail mode at about 160W average motor power including occasional turbo mode up severe climbs. This was to eek out the range as I was not sure I had enough Wh to get back.
I had to drop down to eco mode for the last 5 miles at 60- 100W motor power as I would have ended up walking otherwise.
I arrived back at the car with 1% battery remaining on the bike display.

 

[Alin]

Trebali bismo podijeliti tvoju težinu, težinu bicikla.
Vrsta motora/veličina baterije i hod vašeg električnog bicikla.

Trčim

Bosch CX 5. generacije
Baterije od 400 Wh i 600 Wh
Težina bicikla 21,8 kg s 400 Wh i 22,8 kg s 600 Wh.
Hod bicikla 180 mm
Imam 77 kg

Došao sam do zaključka da se krećem između 130 Wh i 260 Wh/h.

130 Wh uglavnom na Touru + trošim svoju bateriju od 400 Wh koliko god mogu bez previše korištenja Toura +
260 wh je enduro utrka s punim pogonom, razbija punom brzinom/puni turbo cijelo vrijeme.

P.S. Odbijam voziti u eko modu na bilo kojoj udaljenosti. Vozit ću svoj brdski bicikl prije nego što prijeđem na eko na E.

Što imaš, ekipa.

Vozim sve ravno u ECO modu, brda na NORMAL. HIGH uopce ne koristim osim da me traktor ne prestigne na usponu.

 

[Alin]

Cannondale (shimano e6100) 415Wh 87kg

 

[jeanmarc]

Amflow PL carbon Pro (med) with Avinox M1 motor
800Wh battery plus 400Wh range extender (1200Wh total)
Bike weight 20.6kg plus 1720g range extender
Bike travel 160/ 150mm
I'm 82kg +2kg backpack
Tyres Magic Mary pro and Albert pro, both Ultra soft radial trail casing.
Trail conditions soft but not wet, after previous nights light rain. 24C ambient with fresh wind.

Bike measured 60.0ml over 5h:50m moving time with 208W average motor power for the full ride.
Strava/ Fenix7 measured 58.11 ml and 7959ft of climbing with 6:19 moving time.
I completed the first 30miles in turbo/ trail with several attempts at KOM climbs and was averaging over 300W motor power according to the bike display.
for the next 20 miles I dropped down to trail mode at about 160W average motor power including occasional turbo mode up severe climbs. This was to eek out the range as I was not sure I had enough Wh to get back.
I had to drop down to eco mode for the last 5 miles at 60- 100W motor power as I would have ended up walking otherwise.
I arrived back at the car with 1% battery remaining on the bike display.

This is what I call a looooooong ride.... I think my ass would quit before the battery!

 

[Amber Valley Guy]

Today I took both batteries out ( both 630w, spare in Evoc e-ride backpack). First battery managed 64.9km/40.5ml (it would probably have been a bit less as the last two miles was downhill rolling).

Then I put in the spare and finished the ride at 79.9km/50ml.

2260m/7414ft....this was on 1 full battery and 40% of the second and yes Eco and Trail mainly with only about 5 mins of Boost. It helps that some of those climbs where long but not to steep.

 

[Highland Wheels]

Amflow PL carbon Pro (med) with Avinox M1 motor
800Wh battery plus 400Wh range extender (1200Wh total)
Bike weight 20.6kg plus 1720g range extender
Bike travel 160/ 150mm
I'm 82kg +2kg backpack
Tyres Magic Mary pro and Albert pro, both Ultra soft radial trail casing.
Trail conditions soft but not wet, after previous nights light rain. 24C ambient with fresh wind.

Bike measured 60.0ml over 5h:50m moving time with 208W average motor power for the full ride.
Strava/ Fenix7 measured 58.11 ml and 7959ft of climbing with 6:19 moving time.
I completed the first 30miles in turbo/ trail with several attempts at KOM climbs and was averaging over 300W motor power according to the bike display.
for the next 20 miles I dropped down to trail mode at about 160W average motor power including occasional turbo mode up severe climbs. This was to eek out the range as I was not sure I had enough Wh to get back.
I had to drop down to eco mode for the last 5 miles at 60- 100W motor power as I would have ended up walking otherwise.
I arrived back at the car with 1% battery remaining on the bike display.
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DJI Range extender details?

 

[nrgbod]

DJI Range extender details?

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