Absolutely.
I'd much prefer a SC bike, all I'm trying to say is the DJI system in a SC frame would be mighty.
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I'd much prefer a SC bike, all I'm trying to say is the DJI system in a SC frame would be mighty.
In the UK they are sold via a dealer network (there’s 14 stores in the UK). These dealers will provide any aftercare, support and warranty. In a similar way to how you’d get support with Bosch.
If it`s similar to Bosch, good luck with that
at least here in Finland motors are sent to Germany and it takes weeks..
Saddlerags
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Not to veer off topic too much but can you explain more about this statement? I was thinking 180mm of VPP on the Crestline would be the ultimate long travel ebike, but you’re liking the KSL more. What’s better about it?
The Crestline is great for smashing and getting maximum laps in. The trails I was describing were steep, slow and tech. There’s manoeuvrability from the lower weight felt much nicer.
But I think no matter the trail, I’d prefer a much lighter bike with similar travel for the downhills. Turns, jumps and stops more easily.
I really don't know how you come to this conclusion the frame doesn't look very different to many bikes that have this format of linkage and shock placement, i'm sure this layout was about 10years ago but so was the layout on this santa cruz, to me your just being a brand snob!I would take the SC over the Amflow any day of the week, the motor/integration might look awesome but the bike itself looks like it’s from 10 years ago. Maybe the upcoming lightweight Yeti will have the DJi motor
Have you ridden a KSL? If not, go ride one down something steep and tech. The only way I can describe it is the bike disappears while you are riding it, leaving just you focusing on the trail
LautSprecher
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Did you make pictures?Visited LBS today to buy some tools, they had grey Vala on display. Looked good...and Santa Cruz
I’m far from being a SC snob. I have 9 bikes, only 1 of them is a SC and it’s technically not even a MTB. The Amflow is just ugly, it could be the best bike to ever exist and I wouldn’t buy it based on looks alone.
Rando_12345
E*POWAH Master
Saw the Vala in person at a bike show, good looking bike for sure.
Looks all right ay.... cleanly positioned balanced.... l see some similarity with my good ole Norco Sight Vlt frame wise... Viola all powered Bosch latest inline geo.....
Norco releasing its 4th gen Sight Vlt 4 bar HP sometime around March - April.... I believe set up with the exact Bosch motor and 600 wh Battery..... Rolls up front 160f - 150 rear.... these 2 rigs where offers makes for an interesting ride review....
Did a short test ride. After Bullit this bike feels very light and agile. I also got a bit of light ebike vibes, because the downtube is relatively slim. Power delivery of the motor feels more refined than EP8, but almost to a point where it doesn't give that proper push in the back feeling - although not sure how the modes are configured from the factory.
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Anyone know when the Bosch screens will be available for the top tube?
jbrown15
Well-known member
Probably not anytime soon, otherwise all of these new bikes would have launched with them.
Had a chance to ride one of these for a few hours on a demo day last weekend and it was fantastic.
I was short on time - the Bullit I was signed up to ride for a couple of hours had issues after only 30 mins/400m of elevation and one descent so I went back and they put me on the Vala (what a shame!).
I managed to get about 1300m of elevation in about 1hr 30, riding it straight up the most direct routes I could find in turbo and giving it a good go on the way down too. I brought it back to them with half a bar of battery left. Would be interested to try it out for a longer time and seeing what you could get out of it on a longer ride with it in trail/eco etc when you're not in a rush. Also would be interesting to see how it goes with the range extender.
Compared to the one run I did on the Bullit before it died, I went back up and started with the same track for a good comparison and it felt extremely composed, very quiet and smooth and those new schwalbe radial tyres definitely make a difference.
Standover clearance felt much lower on the Vala which was nice and confidence inspiring.
I was short on time - the Bullit I was signed up to ride for a couple of hours had issues after only 30 mins/400m of elevation and one descent so I went back and they put me on the Vala (what a shame!).
I managed to get about 1300m of elevation in about 1hr 30, riding it straight up the most direct routes I could find in turbo and giving it a good go on the way down too. I brought it back to them with half a bar of battery left. Would be interested to try it out for a longer time and seeing what you could get out of it on a longer ride with it in trail/eco etc when you're not in a rush. Also would be interesting to see how it goes with the range extender.
Compared to the one run I did on the Bullit before it died, I went back up and started with the same track for a good comparison and it felt extremely composed, very quiet and smooth and those new schwalbe radial tyres definitely make a difference.
Standover clearance felt much lower on the Vala which was nice and confidence inspiring.
I wonder if anyone has long stroked their vala? Theres room on the shock stroke on them. Not sure if the frame has clearance though. A possible 180f/163r vala would also be almost 1⁰ slacker, before any anglesets get installed
That would be very close to what I'm looking for. Seems that the Bullit is feeling out of date with the Shimano motor. Also as SC is giving the 4bar (on the Vala) such praise this adds to the Bullit feeling tired. Time for a long travel SC Ebike?
I'm interested in the potential new bike too but there doesn't seem to be to many rumours about.
I know that the dealer network have to sign NDA'S so maybe its imminent but nobody is talking about it.
what we do know is that the bullet is well past its sell by date so you would expect a replacement soon.
I know that the dealer network have to sign NDA'S so maybe its imminent but nobody is talking about it.
what we do know is that the bullet is well past its sell by date so you would expect a replacement soon.
Agreed. I'm not hearing much about a Bullit replacement. Whilst the Specialised rumor mill is going crazy!
Still love mine
There's a big discussion on another thread basically saying overshocking is a bad idea. ie the bike is designed a certain way by clever designers who know what theyre doing and some bloke in a garage thinks he knows better etc etc.
I don't really know but I just wish SC would hurry up and give me a longer travel ebike!
Oh sure, thats been the argument by people that cant think for themselves for ages only to have next years bikes adopt what people have done in the real world. Every year a company claims its the perfect geo. Next year its longer and slacker etc etc etc. Kind of an embarassing argument with so many course corrections ,with pretty much every bike forevvvaaarr
Besides whats to stop some one from just throwing on a shock w the same eye to eye with a longer stroke to try it. If the tire doesnt rub and no frame parts collide it accomplishes the goal. Shock rate/linkage design can be managed with various home shock tuning methods
TheMirrorVision
Member
Agreed, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cascade Components develops a link to further increase progression and also increase travel like they have for many other bikes.
Went to local shop and rode Vala today, asked about Bullit replacement and was told very soon 1st quarter 2025, 600W batt, similar weight, more travel. so worth waiting if thats what you want Bullit replacement is very near, he stopped short of telling me the date but could tell he have more info.
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