Yep I see it...agreed. It just rare to see the derailleur cable port laterally....it's hanging out there a little to get snagged easier than on a dorsal cable line feed. But I'm sure it will be fine.
So is that the CEF50 frame small or med size build...painted red?
Linda just gave me the mounting bolt dimensions (M8) only not the mounting width between tabs. But I had to show her an illustration to get the actual mounting hardware sizes below this morning...still waiting.
Linda said it was both a power selector display and a power button. Apparently it can be used in conjunction with the handlebar mounted remote selector/power button. So, I believe, since most NEED the remote more than the frame display...it's redundant or Linda was incorrect and it's just a power button. Hopefully, it's just a power button integrated into the frame for convenience.
Sure. I get they're likely compatible because of CANBus firmware...but there might be some "crosstalk" which is confusing.
Does the remote with 5 power modes tuned to the M820 override the integrated power display's 3 power modes.? I hope so.Sure. I get they're likely compatible because of CANBus firmware...but there might be some "crosstalk" which is confusing.
Potential dilemma: the integrated display has confirmed 3-power mode selectors different colored hues, the remote has 5-power mode selectors, 5 bars to match the M820 power modes: walk, eco, trail, boost, rocky mode, 3 to 5 is not 1:1 compatibly...right?
If not just disable and remove the frame power display and patch the hole or mount a smart phone mount to hide the hole. This was discussed early in thread.Does the remote with 5 power modes tuned to the M820 override the integrated power display's 3 power modes.? I hope so.
If not just disable and remove the frame power display and patch the hole or mount a smart phone mount to hide the hole. This was discussed early in thread.
But Team CEF50, others would benefit with clarification. Ask Linda to do a short video demo of how both of the power selectors work...and then please post it here?
I'm still waiting on shock mount hardware and frame weight answers...it would be nice for others to know before they ship! Go team CEF50!
Ok great! It would in theory make sense that no "crosstalk" will occur. But in practice they are two, separate, competing power display systems. It's not necessary to have the extra weight (209-300 g for cable and display?) and redundancy of the integrated power system. Plus, put an extra hole in the fame when not needed? This doesn't pique your curiosity a little? Especially where weight is the essential element of a "light weight" E-mtb build?
There is no possibility of crosstalk but there certainly is no need for two displays. The top tube is the simplest integrated display, which is also probably the cheapest, but who wants to take their hands off the bars to change assist?Ok great! It would in theory makes sense that no "crosstalk" will occur. But in practice they are two, separate, competing power display systems. It's not necessary to have the extra weight (209-300 g for cable and display?) and redundancy of the integrated power system. Plus, put an extra hole in the fame when not needed? This doesn't pique your curiosity little? Especially where weight is the essential element of a "light weight" E-mtb build?
Can we minimally agree that it's at best the integrated display is an added, unnecessary power button. And at worst it's an extra weight-added appendage that might crosstalk? Either way, the standard M820 kit uses the HID 181 power remote. It's not on the LCE930 system.
Ok we agree. It's redundant and adds extra weight unnecessarily.
They are listed on Aliexpress but I have asked Linda to supply them, waiting for a response.Ok we agree. It's redundant and adds extra weight unnecessarily.
I agree on the DPC-245, I've tried to order it through greenbikekit, they are available to purchase now?
That's a good idea from Linda on DPC-245! AliExpress is usually behind in availability...
I am getting the FT100 battery so she will needs to talk to Bafang about that and hopefully the DPC-245 at the same time
Just revisiting the earliest thread topic related to this discussion...If this whole integrated display unit weighs more than 200 g, I think I might just patch over the frame hole as stated previously in order to reduce the overall bike build...sorry but it's just mind-blowing that two fully independent systems exist in a marketed light-weight e-mtb build...which is the whole damn pointI am getting the FT100 battery so she will need to talk to Bafang about that and hopefully the DPC-245 at the same time
Now add to the matter that the absence of a thumb remote on an E-mtb wasn't a priori, that it was better to start poking holes in the frame is just engineering madness by the CEF50 makers.
Wait. Is the purple arrow that I drew point toward a wired thumb power selector?
Yep...brake clamp. Was hoping for the best...
Do you think both parts needs to be charged? Screen and thumb control?
These aren't wireless, so no small unit batteries. They will connect to the main battery connectors hidden in the downtube.
I thought that was wireless, so it might be a good option indeed
I personally prefer to see a small screen instead of the bulky high profile remote.
