YT Decoy vs Turbo Levo

[Rob Rides EMTB]

YT Decoy OR Specialized Turbo Levo? HEAD TO HEAD REVIEW!!

 

[SwissDH]

Good video. I agree that in many ways they are different types of bike, one more enduro focused, one more trail focused.

Both probably great bikes, but it’s not just the delivery channel that is different between them.

 

[Mattwilko92]

Rob when you speak about value and purchasing from a retailer like Berkshire Bikes, you didn’t mention discount.
Obviously different levels of discount are offered across the world but it is something that should be factored in. I would have never have got the discount on my Levo if purchased online.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Rob when you speak about value and purchasing from a retailer like Berkshire Bikes, you didn’t mention discount.
Obviously different levels of discount are offered across the world but it is something that should be factored in. I would have never have got the discount on my Levo if purchased online.

Discount is interesting as some dealers don’t discount at all. Also some folks don’t even feel comfortable asking / negotiating a discount... some dealers will proactively offer, some won’t.

I definitely should have mentioned it though ?

 

[brizi2003]

Rob - what issues have you had with your Levo?

 

[pgtips]

Discount is interesting as some dealers don’t discount at all. Also some folks don’t even feel comfortable asking / negotiating a discount... some dealers will proactively offer, some won’t.

I definitely should have mentioned it though ?

Indeed, when I was looking for a Kenevo around September last year just after the 2019 Levo hit the shops my local bike shop wouldn't budge a penny of it's retail price of £4500 for the 2018 Kenevo. I told him as is a last years model there should really get some money off. Called Richard at Race co and they did a 2018 Kenevo for £3650! So yes, worth calling around for the best price.

 

[Doomanic]

Comp or Expert?

 

[pgtips]

Comp or Expert?

It was the expert mate.

 

[Doomanic]

That's a hell of a deal, the RRP on the Kenevo is £5500, not £4500...

 

[pgtips]

That's a hell of a deal, the RRP on the Kenevo is £5500, not £4500...

2018 Kenevo was £4500 in the shops around that time. Yes it was a hell of a deal for sure.
The point of my post was that my local just wouldn't badge a penny of that price when all the new 2019 models was in the shops. Crazy!!!

 

[Doomanic]

Not really. At £4500 it was already £1000 off RRP. Leisure Lakes are still selling the 2018 for £4500, even now. It's only a colour change anyway.

Like Berkshire Cycles, RaceCo aren't a normal Spesh dealer so probably have access to better deals. Their Turbo store opens in a few weeks.

 

[pgtips]

Not really. At £4500 it was already £1000 off RRP. Leisure Lakes are still selling the 2018 for £4500, even now. It's only a colour change anyway.

Like Berkshire Cycles, RaceCo aren't a normal Spesh dealer so probably have access to better deals. Their Turbo store opens in a few weeks.

Hmmmm I guess I din't know that at the time.
Still, Rich at RaceCo managed to do a cracking deal!

 

[khorn]

Isn’t there also a difference in motors between 2018 and 2019? I thought that the 2019 entry level comes with a 1.2 motor whereas the 2018 comes with a stronger 1.3?

Karsten

 

[Doomanic]

The 2018 and 2019 Expert Kenevo have the same motor and battery, the 2019 Comp Kenevo has a 1.2e motor and 460Wh battery.

 

[Swissrob]

I want them the same (spec) but happy to pay the extra for LBS support.

Different bikes and methods of sale but surely this is going to put a bit of pressure on Specialized for 2020, if Specialized offered this level of components and match 2020 prices to 2019 I am in for an (unnecessary!) upgrade in 2020.

 

[Gary]

but surely this is going to put a bit of pressure on Specialized for 2020

Why?
The two are not really all that comparible bikes in the first place. (the levo being more of a trail Emtb and the decoy being a bit more gravity/enduro)
But add to this the fact that every single bike YT sell blows the equivalent spesh bike out the water on the spec/VFM front.
I'm talking about saving £1000s and getting a better spec bike than the equivalent specialized model here.

top end carbon Tues £ 4999
top end carbon Demo £8250

top end carbon Capra £ 4799
top end carbon Enduro £8000

not being funny but £3k+ for shop support I'd be in wanting offered "extras" through the *back shop

*Yes. that is a euphemism

 

[2unfit2ride]

Good video, I would be in the Levo camp if it offered anywhere near the value of the YT, but it doesn't & that counts for a lot.

 

[Swissrob]

Why?
The two are not really all that comparible bikes in the first place. (the levo being more of a trail Emtb and the decoy being a bit more gravity/enduro)
But add to this the fact that every single bike YT sell blows the equivalent spesh bike out the water on the spec/VFM front.
I'm talking about saving £1000s and getting a better spec bike than the equivalent specialized model here.

top end carbon Tues £ 4999
top end carbon Demo £8250

top end carbon Capra £ 4799
top end carbon Enduro £8000

not being funny but £3k+ for shop support I'd be in wanting offered "extras" through the *back shop

*Yes. that is a euphemism

Direct sales models will always be cheaper but when the price and spec levels get to this degree of difference then I would suggest that people will take the hit on support for the savings. A good portion of EMTB riders are people getting back on the bike after years away and will do their research, I know I did and in early 2018 with a deal it was worth the extra to get a Levo. Fast forward 1 year and with the price increases and lower spec of the 2019 Levo I don't know which way I would go now. Noise on the Shimano is an issue for some people but YT have reduced that further bringing these bikes closer together. But I could be wrong!

 

[Gary]

Thing is anyone with issues about the noise from the shimano motor is clearly clueless as to how helpful it is to be able to hear when the motor kicks in and out and how much it's assisting.

Sorry but buying an ebike that doesn't suit your typical riding (or riding style) because of what parts it comes with just doesn't make a lot of sense no matter what the price.