Modular Rail System for Bosch bikes - more info please

[StuckintheSpokes]

A few questions:

What bikes can have this installed? Have searched with no results.

With these bikes, can you install it yourself without voiding the warranty?

If not, how much is it typically to install?

I am asking about this because as I understand it, not including cost of parts, looking at £60 an hour to get the loom fitted to a Focus to fit a Bosch Powerpack on that. Apparently you have to dump the motor and sort out the wiring. Could take 1-3 hours.

I was also told I had to get a brand new Bosch Powerpack, even if I had one already, or this would void the warranty.

 

[Stihldog]

A few questions:

What bikes can have this installed? Have searched with no results.

With these bikes, can you install it yourself without voiding the warranty?

If not, how much is it typically to install?

I am asking about this because as I understand it, not including cost of parts, looking at £60 an hour to get the loom fitted to a Focus to fit a Bosch Powerpack on that. Apparently you have to dump the motor and sort out the wiring. Could take 1-3 hours.

I was also told I had to get a brand new Bosch Powerpack, even if I had one already, or this would void the warranty.

This might be a dumb question …But what is a “modular rail system”?

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

This might be a dumb question …But what is a “modular rail system”?

It’s a system to carry a powerpack battery for extended range for Bosch bikes with a powertube.

 

[All4Fun]

Haibike uses this on their Flyon's and some other models.

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

Haibike uses this on their Flyon's and some other models.

Any non Flyon hardtails? Or am I searching in vain...

 

[R120]

Several brands using the Bosch systems have the ability to fit range extender batteries - some of these take the form of the official Bosch power packs and others brand specific ones.

Scott, Orbea, Simplon, Haibike are amongst the brands to do this.

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

Several brands using the Bosch systems have the ability to fit range extender batteries - some of these take the form of the official Bosch power packs and others brand specific ones.

Scott, Orbea, Simplon, Haibike are amongst the brands to do this.

Hmm, interesting. Will search said brands for more information.

 

[R120]

The official Bosch systems is available on some Trek ebikes, but not there EMTB's

Electric bike range extender – Trek Bikes - Trek Bikes (GB)

Add an extra boost to every ride with an e-bike range extender for riding longer, adventuring further and exploring more than before.

www.trekbikes.com

 

[R120]

Mondraker and Norco allso offer ranger extenders for their Shimano powered bikes, but the main batteries on the bikes cannot be removed, though they are much larger capacity than the built in batter on the shimano powered focus

Shimano

www.mondraker.com

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www.norco.com

Rocky Mountain have a similar set up on their bikes called the overtime pack, again the main bike battery is fully integrated and non removable.

Overtimepack Powerplay Battery 1.0

The Overtimepack 1.0 allows you to ride your Powerplay farther than ever before, putting more time in on the trail before needing a charge. The Overtimepack 1.0 is a range extender for our Powerplay lineup that offers an addition 330 Wh of battery capacity. When combined with our massive 672 Wh...

rockymountainuk.com

 

[Sander23]

I run the dual battery on mine. Installation on tge rail system seems fairly easy. Only thing is the wiring ( i had a friend of mine do it)
About the warranty i cant answer you. You wont have any issues with other powerpacks as ive switch my batterys here and then with my dads ebike battery cuz he dont ride alot

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

I run the dual battery on mine. Installation on tge rail system seems fairly easy. Only thing is the wiring ( i had a friend of mine do it)
About the warranty i cant answer you. You wont have any issues with other powerpacks as ive switch my batterys here and then with my dads ebike battery cuz he dont ride alot
View attachment 51544

So it would work on an 8.5 2021?

 

[Sander23]

If it has a bosch and a modular rail system yes.

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

If it has a bosch and a modular rail system yes.

Well reading through the Haibike website, all Bosch Gen 4 hardtails should be equipped with the system. That in particular includes the Hardseven 9 and 10. What is not clear is the 8.5, at the spec is not on their website.

Need to do more digging.

Ok, Haibike Presents Its 2021 Trail Electric Bikes | Easy E-biking says, “What do Haibike Trail e-bikes have in common? All Haibike models share not only their visual identity, but also a complete set of equipment. This includes integrated lighting at the front and rear, solid mudguards and a luggage rack with the modular rail system.”

However, no mention of the 8.5 or anything else below without the gen 4 motor.

Haibike HardSeven 8.5 (2021), rám L/48 cm, BOSCH - MTB 27,5", darkblue/coolgrey/red

Elektrokola Haibike patří dlouhodobě mezi nejoblíběnější a nejprodávanější elektrokola. Německá preciznost, špičkový design, výborný motor a kvalitní mechanická výbava - to je stručná definice elektrokol Haibike. Pokud k tomu připočteme nadstandardní jízdní vlasnosti a pohodlnou geometrii rámu,

www.akumo.cz

Shows images of the downtube, but it doesn’t look like anything is there, except a thin black line. It could be the integrated MRS, no idea.

 

[Sander23]

You cant find the 8.5 on the haibike website.
Only a few online shops sell it with little info.
The hardtails only seems to have 2 different frames.
Are you buying it online? Or in a shop then you can ask there

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

You cant find the 8.5 on the haibike website.
Only a few online shops sell it with little info.
The hardtails only seems to have 2 different frames.
Are you buying it online? Or in a shop then you can ask there

Online and I am asking the seller via Email but have had no reply.

 

[Sander23]

Allmost sure its compatible.
thats the rubber entree of the cable from your external battety

 

[All4Fun]

Well reading through the Haibike website, all Bosch Gen 4 hardtails should be equipped with the system. That in particular includes the Hardseven 9 and 10. What is not clear is the 8.5, at the spec is not on their website.

Need to do more digging.

Ok, Haibike Presents Its 2021 Trail Electric Bikes | Easy E-biking says, “What do Haibike Trail e-bikes have in common? All Haibike models share not only their visual identity, but also a complete set of equipment. This includes integrated lighting at the front and rear, solid mudguards and a luggage rack with the modular rail system.”

However, no mention of the 8.5 or anything else below without the gen 4 motor.

Haibike HardSeven 8.5 (2021), rám L/48 cm, BOSCH - MTB 27,5", darkblue/coolgrey/red

Elektrokola Haibike patří dlouhodobě mezi nejoblíběnější a nejprodávanější elektrokola. Německá preciznost, špičkový design, výborný motor a kvalitní mechanická výbava - to je stručná definice elektrokol Haibike. Pokud k tomu připočteme nadstandardní jízdní vlasnosti a pohodlnou geometrii rámu,

www.akumo.cz

Shows images of the downtube, but it doesn’t look like anything is there, except a thin black line. It could be the integrated MRS, no idea.

The thin black line could be the rubber strip that protects the empty MRS rail.
I've seen a 360 view on bikester, and to me it looks like MRS.

Haibike MRS Rubber Frame Cover Strip – e-bikeshop.co.uk

This is for the rubber insert to be used on the new Haibike electric bike downtube MRS (Modular Rail System).

www.e-bikeshop.co.uk

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

Allmost sure its compatible.
thats the rubber entree of the cable from your external battety View attachment 51557

Ok thanks. I was wondering if you had a dropper post? I was thinking the wiring along with the extender from the MRS might be a bit too tight to fit the cabling in. No idea whether this affects it or not.

The thin black line could be the rubber strip that protects the empty MRS rail.
I've seen a 360 view on bikester, and to me it looks like MRS.

Haibike MRS Rubber Frame Cover Strip – e-bikeshop.co.uk

This is for the rubber insert to be used on the new Haibike electric bike downtube MRS (Modular Rail System).

www.e-bikeshop.co.uk

Thanks.

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

If anyone was wondering, I have now ordered the bike!

 

[Sander23]

No i dont have a dropperpost but i do have a speedbox installed what made it hard to install the seccond battery.

Nice good luck with your bike

 

[StuckintheSpokes]

Accessories and spare for bikes, ebike, motorcycles, scooter, vespa,

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www.ridewill.it

And do I need any more parts to make it work?

 

[Sander23]

No thats it. I have one with with lock for the battery( idk if that one has it to)