Levo SL Gen 1 Official Levo SL Thread

[Kpmnd85]

How fat of a tire do you think you can fit on the rear? Would a 2.6 fit?

Original back tire

At 25 psi

Rim to top of tire = 3-3/16”

Clearance top of tire to mud guard = 1/4”
Tire clearance side = 5/8”

Tire width = 2-7/16”

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

what do you weigh @Rob Hancill and how agressive a rider are you now? Last vid of yours I watched I thought you'd improved tons on the bike... but hard to tell from that alone.

I'd only use a Pike on a dirtjump bike (Lowered to 100/120mm). I'm 200lb and you've probably guessed how I ride...

I weigh about 85KG with kit. I am not super aggressive but I like to try ?

 

[Gary]

I weigh about 85KG with kit. I am not super aggressive but I like to try ?

Hmm..
Had to google weight conversion for your modern weighing system. Turns out I'm 90kg
A Pike should be absolutely fine for trail riding at your weight/riding style... But if you value fork stiffness/strength the Lyrik has a lot more of both and the penalty for it is only about 200g extra weight.
Pre-Eeb I was right around your current weight and riding a Lyrik on my Enduro bike and an OG Pike on my DJ, 4X and slope bikes (at 100, 110 & 140mm respectively)... I rode that slope bike down Fort william WC track many times with zero issues other than it being slightly more tiring than on my DH bikes.
It's really a choice of whether you're looking for a really lightweight bike or a slightly stiffer/stronger one.
Personally If I was aiming to have a very light Carbon SL for tamer local riding (but also had something like my ESommet for rougher, bigger terrain) I'd probably go with the Pike. I haven't owned a trail bike of any sort in 25+ years. though, just jump/gravity bikes, roadbikes and BMX.
Your call really chief.

 

[TomH79]

I weigh about 85KG with kit. I am not super aggressive but I like to try ?

Put some better damper inside the fox34.
You wont get nothing extra with pike.

If you want hole different fork, go for the lyrik like @Gary said.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Put some better damper inside the fox34.
You wont get nothing extra with pike.

If you want hole different fork, go for the lyrik like @Gary said.

I was thinking the Pike Ultimate with the 2.1 damper would be quite different to the Fox 34 in terms of damping performance.

 

[TomH79]

I was thinking the Pike Ultimate with the 2.1 damper would be quite different to the Fox 34 in terms of damping performance.

Change stock damper the one wich has LSC and HSC adjustments. Doing this you save money and get the same that pike offers.
Without weight penalty.

 

[bjmc]

Original back tire
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At 25 psi
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Rim to top of tire = 3-3/16”

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Clearance top of tire to mud guard = 1/4”
Tire clearance side = 5/8”

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Tire width = 2-7/16”

Has anyone with an SL put on 2.6 inch tires front and rear? Any problems?
I have had issues with traction with the 2.3 stock tires and am hoping to put on 29x2.6 magic mary tires.

 

[R120]

@Rob Hancill 100% get the lyric, the added stiffness of the chassis will be far more noticeable and improvement over the 34 - you will get better dampening on the pike than the 34, but its not going to make a noticeable difference to the ride in the way a burlier fork would.

I also think from a purely selfish point of view that I guess a lot of others would also agree with, is that most people who change the fork on an SL are going to put a 36 or a Lyric on it, so if you are going to do content based on swapping the fork, going to a Lyric or 36 would be far more interesting.

Plus I dont think you have had the pleasure yet of putting time on a Lyric Ultimate, and now the time to do it!

 

[Blinkie]

Plus I dont think you have had the pleasure yet of putting time on a Lyric Ultimate, and now the time to do it!

Yeah stick a Lyrik Ultimate on, as that's the 1st upgrade I'll be doing.

 

[p3eps]

I’m waiting for someone to put a 160 Lyric on and see how it rides. Lyric Ultimate would be my personal choice. The one I had on the Rail was really smooth and planted.

 

[Kpmnd85]

Has anyone with an SL put on 2.6 inch tires front and rear? Any problems?
I have had issues with traction with the 2.3 stock tires and am hoping to put on 29x2.6 magic mary tires.

I ordered one of these.
chwalbe Eddy Current Rear Addix-Soft, SuperGravity, Tubeless Folding HS497 MTN Bike Tire
Will mount it and find out.

 

[CjP]

Isn't it about time the "Levo SL" had a shorted nickname .. like "SLevo" ? Pronounced "Sleeve'O'".

Levo SL owners can then at least have their own mini chant anthem when bumping into one another like "Sleeeeev'O, Sleeeeev'O, Sleeeeev'O" ..

If it turns into a mechanical and electrical disaster (which it won't) .. it could be the "Levo S-Hell"..

Oh god, I'm obviously suffering from severe storm induced riding withdrawal symptoms... Stuff it, I'm going out .. how bad can it be ..

Everyone knows it’s a Crevo.

 

[Hoppy]

Just double checked the official brochure:

"The S-Works Levo comes in at 17.35KG in Large".

Take the tubes out and you lose 400g (or 350g in my case above with a lot of Muc Off sealant).

XL frame will be slightly heavier - not sure how much.

Where is this brochure

 

[ebikerider]

Once you SL owners put a decent fork on there along with some decent tyres those precious 4kg weight savings are going to disappear

 

[losgatosgtr]

If you compare an upgraded full fat Levo to an upgraded SL, the weight difference will still be 8 lbs to 10 lbs. Compare the S-works SL to the S works levo for example which are "upgraded" bikes. I'm building my own version of an S works Levo SL, using the components I want to use.

 

[ridesantacruz]

I agree with upgrading the Levo SL, but why not start with the SL carbon comp over the SL S-works. It's the same frame and motor, save the $6K and then build a custom bike. I prefer Shimano build over Sram, that's my plan.

 

[All Mountain Coaching]

I agree with upgrading the Levo SL, but why not start with the SL carbon comp over the SL S-works. It's the same frame and motor, save the $6K and then build a custom bike. I prefer Shimano build over Sram, that's my plan.

To get to that spec it's about 6k anyway. That was originally gonna be my plan. Only worth doing if like you you want Shimano stuff or different wheelset.

1600 wheels
400 range extender
550 axs reverb
200 carbon bars stem
750 xx1 eagle
1000 fox factory
600 fox factory DPS

As rough guideline

 

[TomH79]

Anyone considered putting 11spd gearset instead 12spd?
Imo 11spd is enough and you can save weight using 11spd.

 

[p3eps]

To get to that spec it's about 6k anyway. That was originally gonna be my plan. Only worth doing if like you you want Shimano stuff or different wheelset.

1600 wheels
400 range extender
550 axs reverb
200 carbon bars stem
750 xx1 eagle
1000 fox factory
600 fox factory DPS

As rough guideline

I’ve gone with the expert... the brakes are better, the Eagle cassette is lighter, and the wheels are carbon. I’ve had Roval carbon wheels in the past, and always found them to be ok.

My upgrades are:
SRAM XX1 AXS upgrade - £658.52
RockShox Reverb AXS - £539.99
RockShox Lyric Ultimate - £643.11
ENVE downhill bar - already own
ENVE stem - already own
Probably a wider front tyre... but waiting to see what fits.

XX1 and Reverb are on their way. Also waiting for more info on 150 vs 160 fork before ordering and which offset.

 

[Blinkie]

That EBC pricing?

 

[p3eps]

That EBC pricing?

No... they can’t even come close to any of those prices. I have to get my SL from Evans, as they did a 30 day exchange with my Rail.
XX1 is bike-components.de - I can’t find a UK site for under £850, so it’s a no brainier.
Reverb is Wiggle - but Evans price matched... and the Lyric is another German site that I can’t remember the name of.
I’ll be getting my range extender from a EBC using the gift voucher from the demo.

Support your local store where possible... but almost £300 difference for the AXS stuff is unreal.

 

[Blinkie]

will have a hunt about for the lyrik then

 

[Fivetones]

Pity Evans are owned by that crook Mike Ashley.

 

[p3eps]

Pity Evans are owned by that crook Mike Ashley.

True... however I could get the Rail with 15% off online (in store collection approx 400miles away) and my local Trek dealer could only give me 5%. Evans matched the 15%. On a Rail 9.9, that wasn’t far off £1500 vs £500 discount.
I’d rather not buy from Evans, however a saving like that couldn’t be turned down.

 

[ridesantacruz]

To get to that spec it's about 6k anyway. That was originally gonna be my plan. Only worth doing if like you you want Shimano stuff or different wheelset.

1600 wheels
400 range extender
550 axs reverb
200 carbon bars stem
750 xx1 eagle
1000 fox factory
600 fox factory DPS

As rough guideline

I agree, but the custom build will be a lot sicker then the factory build:

Rims - 29" Reserve 30 rims with Industry 9 hubs
Maxxis Tires 2.5 Assegai EXO front and 2.4 rear DHR II EXO with Cushcore
Enve Bars with a Industry 9 stem
XT 4 piston brakes with IceTech 203mm rotors front and rear
AXS Seatpost
XTR shifter
XT 11-speed Cassette, Derailleur, Chain (More durable then the 12 speed)
Fork Fork 36 Grip2 150mm
Fox Shock X2 210 x 55mm

 

[Bomble]

True... however I could get the Rail with 15% off online (in store collection approx 400miles away) and my local Trek dealer could only give me 5%. Evans matched the 15%. On a Rail 9.9, that wasn’t far off £1500 vs £500 discount.
I’d rather not buy from Evans, however a saving like that couldn’t be turned down.

Which online shop did the rail 15% fella?

 

[p3eps]

Which online shop did the rail 15% fella?

It was Rutland Cycles... they had a 15% off coupon code at the beginning of January for New Year. Someone on here pointed it out when I asked what sort of discount I should be haggling for.

 

[galaga187]

Pity Evans are owned by that crook Mike Ashley.

Fake news! I’ve never had an Evans giant mug added to my order ??

 

[Kpmnd85]

Levi SL Comp CarbonMedium weighing in at 18.14kg (no pedals)

My dirty S-Works Stumpjumper Fatty medium stock except Maxxis tires and no tubes but race face Chester pedals were on it weighing 340g so 13.32kg-.34kg = 12.98kg

Levo SL starts off 5.16kg heavier (with tubes)
I’ll be doing upgrades: carbon wheels, AXS reverb, XX1 cassette, maybe AXS drivetrain upgrade, tires, etc.

 

[jemen]

There you go...
Changed tires immediately and made tubeless. Ground Control and Purgatory work so much better than i thought and saved around 500g.
Also changed stem, saddle and handlear to my personal preferences.
I´m blown away by the bike, so natural. I did not know how natural E-MTbiking can be, i definitely stay with the SL and won´t go back to the clumsy LEVO.