Electric Motocross bike - Sam Pilgrim

[Zimmerframe]

One for @apac

 

[118]

@Zimmerframe - Have you heard of a Sur-Ron? I've tested a couple of their light bee's.. good fun and half the price of the Cakes above..They have a new model coming out to challenge KTM, Cakes, et al....

 

[Zimmerframe]

Never seen one in real life. Have seen them in the virtual world, they look neat - and great value !! Better value than an emtb !

 

[Al Boneta]

I had to assemble a Sur-Ron for a customer.
I thought the fit and finish wasn’t very good.

 

[Zimmerframe]

I had to assemble a Sur-Ron for a customer.
I thought the fit and finish wasn’t very good.

I would imagine for the money it's not going to be 5* on the attention to detail and finish quality ..

Did you have a play ?

 

[Al Boneta]

I would imagine for the money it's not going to be 5* on the attention to detail and finish quality ..

Did you have a play ?

I rode it around, but the novelty wore off after 10 minutes.
Rather have real dirt bike

 

[118]

Never seen one in real life. Have seen them in the virtual world, they look neat - and great value !! Better value than an emtb !

One of my friends, uses his to herd his sheep, along with his dog, Dave. He claims it's more nimble, cheaper and less likely to roll over him, should he tip off it

 

[wepn]

One of my friends, uses his to herd his sheep, along with his dog, Dave. He claims it's more nimble, cheaper and less likely to roll over him, should he tip off it

Has your mate & Dave seen the UBCO 2x2? Made in NZ 2WD designed for sheep (and everything else)

2x2 - 2018 | Ubco Bikes, New Zealand

 

[wepn]

Or if the sheep are fast - not so sure about this one lol

FRX1 - Trail Bike | Ubco Bikes, New Zealand

 

[Zimmerframe]

He claims it's more nimble, cheaper and less likely to roll over him, should he tip off

I have neither ridden, nor fallen off a ?, so I have nothing to relate too.

2x2? Made in NZ 2WD designed for sheep (and everything else)

I just gotta find a video of a sheep riding that bad boy.

 

[Akiwi]

Bloody Kiwis!!
I have fallen off a sheep. When I was a boy, loads of my friends lived on farms, and a few had sheep as pets. It was fun jumping on their backs and seeing how long you could hold on. one in perticular had a tendency to but you in the back whenever you ween't looking.
Watched the Sam Pilgram video last night. Looks fun, but where can you legally ride something like that? Nowhere near where I live that's for sure.

 

[Zimmerframe]

Bloody Kiwis!!
I have fallen off a sheep. When I was a boy, loads of my friends lived on farms, and a few had sheep as pets. It was fun jumping on their backs and seeing how long you could hold on. one in perticular had a tendency to but you in the back whenever you ween't looking.
Watched the Sam Pilgram video last night. Looks fun, but where can you legally ride something like that? Nowhere near where I live that's for sure.

It's electric ... perfect for the house and garden !

 

[JetSetDemo]

I watched the Sam pilgrim video earlier today, he was just ridding it in his local woods, can we just do that in the UK? I missed out on having a scrambler when I was a kid and always wanted one, I absolutely love the look of that FXR 1.

 

[Doomanic]

he was just ridding it in his local woods, can we just do that in the UK?

Only with the land owner's permission and not on any public rights of way on that land.

 

[apac]

One for @apac

Yeah maan, thanks for the heads up.
When i got into ebiking there was nothing available that ticked the boxes for emtbiking so us diy'ers made our own interpretations. From giant size hub motors to noisey chain drives and even all wheel drive bikes. Its been a big journey.
Been there and done the illegal hot rodding and riding with pride all over your public rite of ways. Even risked my balls with dodgy battery assemblages that could get run away heat and fire short circuits. But hey, it was worth it.

 

[Rusty]

Have tested a few - several back to back on the Taupo MX track and I do have a fondness for them. If I can't have a lightweight 250 2-stroke then an eMX would be my next choice.
The Zero & Alta bikes are/were of reasonable quality build and the KTM is outstanding. Have seen the Mugen eRex but not had a chance to ride - very impressive.

 

[Akiwi]

Cool, i am an eternal Bastler and love building things. I got bitten pretty badly with a .gokart I built for my kids with police and fine plus an a...hole who charged us nearly €3000 for a stone chip in his car door. Germany is not as relaxed as New Zealand where I come from. Anyway respect on the home builds

 

[apac]

Or if the sheep are fast - not so sure about this one lol

FRX1 - Trail Bike | Ubco Bikes, New Zealand

This was originally designed many years ago. It was called the neematic. The makers missed the boat and waited too long for sponsorship and marketing for the bike to be purchased. It was to be one of the very first hub motors used as mid-drive to drive the rear cog and reduction gearing. Huge volts and amps available to turn a small cog on the motor axle. Awesome bike

 

[Zimmerframe]

plus an a...hole who charged us nearly €3000 for a stone chip in his car door

a stone chip on all 4 doors ?

 

[Akiwi]

a stone chip on all 4 doors ?

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Yeah, something like that! 5 if you count the hatch on the back.

 

[RickBullotta]

Have tested a few - several back to back on the Taupo MX track and I do have a fondness for them. If I can't have a lightweight 250 2-stroke then an eMX would be my next choice.
The Zero & Alta bikes are/were of reasonable quality build and the KTM is outstanding. Have seen the Mugen eRex but not had a chance to ride - very impressive.

Unfortunately Alta is no more...and the KTM is heavy as f*ck right now. I'm waiting for a 120-150 lb electric dirt bike with a legitimate motorcycle suspension and frame. Probably a couple years out when batteries are 50% of the weight or 2X the capacity they are today.

FWIW, my average speeds on technical trails on my KTM 300 aren't hugely faster than they are on my Pivot Shuttle. Faster of course, but in the gnar, the Pivot holds its own!

 

[Rusty]

Unfortunately Alta is no more...and the KTM is heavy as f*ck right now. I'm waiting for a 120-150 lb electric dirt bike with a legitimate motorcycle suspension and frame. Probably a couple years out when batteries are 50% of the weight or 2X the capacity they are today.

FWIW, my average speeds on technical trails on my KTM 300 aren't hugely faster than they are on my Pivot Shuttle. Faster of course, but in the gnar, the Pivot holds its own!

I heard someone has bought the Alta patents and technical information so just waiting to see what eventuates.
Forget 120-150lb eMX bikes. Current FIM limits are between 98 & 102kg depending on class and motor type. Talking to one of their technical guys last year and my understanding is around 100kg. The KTM is 107kg and I am hearing new generation cells are taking the weight down. They really need a definitive ruling from the FIM before they do much more. The Alta Redshift was about 120kg and to be fair felt a lot lighter. Not certain on ther Zero but it felt 10kg heavier, but still felt better in the air than a 450..