CHEEB V2 Build Thread

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Just an FYI - Bafang contacted me today to say the M510 is still under development but will be sent as soon as its ready for the CHEEB V2.

 

[patdam]

Just an FYI - Bafang contacted me today to say the M510 is still under development but will be sent as soon as its ready for the CHEEB V2.

hi rob. do you tried to update the firmware on M500 ? i find the 12A more fun than 10A. for the same human effort, the motor delivery more power when you using shortener rear pignons if you can keep +- 80 rpm legs.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

hi rob. do you tried to update the firmware on M500 ? i find the 12A more fun than 10A. for the same human effort, the motor delivery more power when you using shortener rear pignons if you can keep +- 80 rpm legs.

Hi, no. I don't have the original CHEEB anymore

 

[ornias]

Just an FYI - Bafang contacted me today to say the M510 is still under development but will be sent as soon as its ready for the CHEEB V2.

As far as my contacts go, it should be "just a few weeks"

 

[Ordinary Human Male]

The shock is only £72 lol

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BTW, I had that shock on my 140mm trail bike before I sold it. It was actually pretty damn good, though the suspension wasn't progressive enough for it to be optimal and I never bothered to try a progressive spring.

The rubber stopper provided really nice bottom-out resistance.

Do not fear the DNM Burner.

 

[laissez]

Is there any chinese alloy/steel ebike frames or is it just all carbon?

 

[Kyokushin]

Is there any chinese alloy/steel ebike frames or is it just all carbon?

There are also alloy. I have such one. Look for the Eshion company on Alibaba. I saw also the alloy frames on other chineese brands.

 

[laissez]

There are also alloy. I have such one. Look for the Eshion company on Alibaba. I saw also the alloy frames on other chineese brands.

This product is no longer available.

This product is no longer available.

eshionbike.en.alibaba.com

You have this? Seems like they only sell ready made bikes though.

 

[Kyokushin]

You have this? Seems like they only sell ready made bikes though.

No, I have on this frame, and its ok.

Review - 2021 Eshion TDA30L - Bafang M500 / M600

Manufacturer: Eshion Model: TDA30L Model Year: 2021 Price Paid: ~2500 USD New/Used: Brand New Engine: Bafang M500 Tyres: 27.5" x 2.8 Suspension front: RST TITAN 150mm Suspension rear: EXA A5-RR1 Mass: 28kg Battery: 840Wh Voltage: 48V Power: 250W rated (720W peak) Rear derailleur: Deore 10 speed...

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[laissez]

Anything better bang for buck than this Deore 12 speed ? Had a look but think this might be the best (and in stock)

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Get the new linkglide stuff. It should be .ore durable and it's cheap:
Shimano CS-LG600 Linkglide 10-speed Cassette 11-43T 69,99 € Shimano CN-LG500 Linkglide 10/11-speed Chain with Quick-Link alk. 22,99 € Shimano DEORE Linkglide RD-M5130 10-speed Rear Derailleur 49,99 € Shimano DEORE Linkglide SL-M5130 10-speed Shift Lever right with Optical Gear Display 29,99 €

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

CHEEB V2 is well underway.

New M510 motor, 20% more power, 18% lighter. And some amazing deals on at the moment at CRC - Yari fork for £265 is a steal!!

The goal is to keep the entire build at £2999 or under.

 

[thaeber]

Great Rob! So excited, can’t wait for Your review!

 

[BootsDave]

Thanks for the heads up about the forks, just ordered a set for my wife’s Cheeb. Do you have your M510? Dengfu don’t have a date yet.

 

[RyeNiel]

CHEEB V2 is well underway.

New M510 motor, 20% more power, 18% lighter. And some amazing deals on at the moment at CRC - Yari fork for £265 is a steal!!

The goal is to keep the entire build at £2999 or under.


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excited

 

[Sunburntwily]

Just quietly following this build. Checked Dengfu web site from a google search for e10. And nothing. Im in Australia and I built the V1 e10 and thinking maybe build a second bike. Have the e10 been taken off the market or is it no longer available down here in oz? Anyone know? Cheers all happy building.

 

[Ausmtb]

Just quietly following this build. Checked Dengfu web site from a google search for e10. And nothing. Im in Australia and I built the V1 e10 and thinking maybe build a second bike. Have the e10 been taken off the market or is it no longer available down here in oz? Anyone know? Cheers all happy building.

Yep, you can still get them in aus, contact them directly via email.

 

[Harvamtb]

How much did you pay for shipping to the UK? They are asking for $550, which seems high

 

[Waynemarlow]

How much did you pay for shipping to the UK? They are asking for $550, which seems high

That usually includes the import duties and VAT as well as air post. Try asking Melony to quote sending it by train complete with duties and taxes and it wil work out cheaper, but take a few more weeks of transit.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

They likely don’t advertise the frame due to licensing with Luna in the US who have exclusivity on it.

 

[Harvamtb]

That usually includes the import duties and VAT as well as air post. Try asking Melony to quote sending it by train complete with duties and taxes and it wil work out cheaper, but take a few more weeks of transit.

Cheers, I'll ask her. Any ideas what you would expect to pay for everything total? Seems to be a fair bit pricier than Cheeb v1 frame

 

[Ordinary Human Male]

Was really looking forward to seeing that DNM coil shock in action. Any chance you could be persuaded to test it in the name of science?

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Was really looking forward to seeing that DNM coil shock in action. Any chance you could be persuaded to test it in the name of science?

Yes. I’ll set it up with a budget option too!

 

[Waynemarlow]

Cheers, I'll ask her. Any ideas what you would expect to pay for everything total? Seems to be a fair bit pricier than Cheeb v1 frame

Considering I paid around $ 900 all in, including train post, duties etc back in March 2020, have they gone up substantially since then ?

Blame Rob and his videos making them popular

 

[Harvamtb]

Considering I paid around $ 900 all in, including train post, duties etc back in March 2020, have they gone up substantially since then ?

Blame Rob and his videos making them popular

Including motor and battery??

I was just quoted $2500 Inc shipping the E10 frame but the e05 is only $120 less.

 

[Waynemarlow]

Including motor and battery??

I was just quoted $2500 Inc shipping the E10 frame but the e05 is only $120 less.

Sorry it was the Frame only for $900.00.

 

[Harvamtb]

Sorry it was the Frame only for $900.00.

Where did you source the motor from? Is it cheaper direct from befang?

 

[Waynemarlow]

When I bought the frame the M500 was not available. I fitted a TSDZ2 for the first year ( 250 W badging ) which was pretty decent but eventually I went for a M600 when the noisy steel gear issue was resolved and Bafang had returned to a plastic main gear, as it gave me an American spec ( ) and a very quiet motor, that had been proven to be reliable. I went back to Melody and Tongshen ordered it for me.

Why the M600 rather than a M500 ? Remember that power used of the battery is dependant on how much assistance you want. The M600 and M500 will use almost exactly the same amount at lower levels, just the M600 will give you a higher level of assistance than the M500 can, with the downside of being about 300gms heavier. The upside is that in theory the motor will be less stressed and last longer, the downside is that technically its not EU legal ( but that debateable ).

Battery wise I built my own for mainly cost and weight advantages.

Can you build your own battery for the E10 ?

Yes is the answer, but with caveats here. The manufacturers use proprietory Can Bus signals and the likes to manage and interpret the battery to protect it from too much load and the total number of charges etc. But if you research and look around the internet its surprising how much info you...

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[Harvamtb]

When I bought the frame the M500 was not available. I fitted a TSDZ2 for the first year ( 250 W badging ) which was pretty decent but eventually I went for a M600 when the noisy steel gear issue was resolved and Bafang had returned to a plastic main gear, as it gave me an American spec ( ) and a very quiet motor, that had been proven to be reliable. I went back to Melody and Tongshen ordered it for me.

Why the M600 rather than a M500 ? Remember that power used of the battery is dependant on how much assistance you want. The M600 and M500 will use almost exactly the same amount at lower levels, just the M600 will give you a higher level of assistance than the M500 can, with the downside of being about 300gms heavier. The upside is that in theory the motor will be less stressed and last longer, the downside is that technically its not EU legal ( but that debateable ).

Battery wise I built my own for mainly cost and weight advantages.

Can you build your own battery for the E10 ?

Yes is the answer, but with caveats here. The manufacturers use proprietory Can Bus signals and the likes to manage and interpret the battery to protect it from too much load and the total number of charges etc. But if you research and look around the internet its surprising how much info you...

www.emtbforums.com

Interesting thanks for your info. What did you get charged for the motor?

(Last question, I promise!) So I take it you used 18650 batteries to make the bike battery? How did you get a suitable fitting battery case for this?

Thanks again

 

[Waynemarlow]

Interesting thanks for your info. What did you get charged for the motor?

(Last question, I promise!) So I take it you used 18650 batteries to make the bike battery? How did you get a suitable fitting battery case for this?

Thanks again

Prices for things have risen appreciably since the time I bought the motor, you are going to have to shop around I'm afraid and get the best price you can.

No I used 21700 batteries, far better in this application as per my thread I created on making it, larger capacity for lower cost and using a very good battery whose voltage doesn't sag until the very end of its charge. I didn't use a case, simply heat shrinking the unit, commercial velcro to lock it into place ( you would be amazed by the grab and strength of this type of velcro ), it all comes to probably a kilo saving in weight for more capacity.

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

I received the new M510 motor