Here's my video on the 2021 Giant Trance. A capable 29er trail based ebike with the Yamaha PWX2 motor.
Honestly didn't notice too much difference between this and the Haibike, other than it having a far neater bar control (I don't like the big Haibike display). I was hoping the Smart Assist might be a bit better, but it felt a bit less natural than what I was expecting.Rob,
Great review.
I'd like a Carbon version weighing 4 or 5 pounds less.
Did the motor feel any different than the Hiabike you reviewed a few months ago?
Sounds like the shifting was good.
I vote for you testing a new Ydx-Moro next
And a Kindernay too please. Lol.
Thanks for great videos.
Rob, there is no doubt you are correct.I like the 80Nm power in the lower modes (the Haibike ONLY allows it in Extra Power mode), so I appreciated having the full 80Nm on tap on steep climbs even when in mode 3 or 4.
I took a few of the stats from a Giant Product & Training Manager, here's a verbatim part of quote of some detail I was sentRob, there is no doubt you are correct.
Is "80nm power in lower modes" a Giant syncdrive spec? I cant find it in the brochures.
Thanks, I know I've heard this before, but for the life of me couldn't find it.I took a few of the stats from a Giant Product & Training Manager, here's a verbatim part of quote of some detail I was sent
"We are the only brand that can source just the motor from them and pair it with our battery of choice and importantly our own firmware. One significant difference between this and the Yamaha version is we don’t restrict the torque, 80Nm in all modes not just the top one."
The surging when not moving,They (Yamaha) need to sort out the pedal twitchiness in modes 4 and 5. I totally get the benefits of the instant torque, but other motors manage almost identical instant on performance without the twitchiness...
Once my warranty replacement wheel arrives (my trance19 OEM hub stripped the freehub threads after 4K), I will install it on the TranX, and measure the difference, between running a mullet in high mode, and a 29er in low mode.I think mulleting this bike will drop the motor too low and will result in many motor strikes.
I have not tried running in low mode yet, probably will not either as I get quite a few rock and log rolls that strike the motor.Once my warranty replacement wheel arrives (my trance19 OEM hub stripped the freehub threads after 4K), I will install it on the TranX, and measure the difference, between running a mullet in high mode, and a 29er in low mode.
For me, It's not so much about handling, as it is about spare parts and tires. I've already got the parts laying around, and an almost ridiculous collection of 27.5 tires, tubes and liners that need to be used.
How do you rate the Trance against the Rail Rob? Or anyone else who has ridden both out there.
Here's my video on the 2021 Giant Trance. A capable 29er trail based ebike with the Yamaha PWX2 motor.
I think it is marginally yes owing to the longer Chainstay. But AllMTN more of an all rounder.Is this trance better climber then allmtn 6,7?
I think it is not about Yamaha motor.. see f.e. Haibike or even hardtail Fathom. IMHO the limit is Maestro suspension. Lower short link connected to bottom point of rear shock forced to set the engine angle at almost horizontal...Yamaha was always a great motor. But his centered pedal axis don’t allow some geo and suspension schemes.