Honestly didn't notice too much difference between this and the Haibike, other than it having a far neater bar control (I don't like the big Haibike display). I was hoping the Smart Assist might be a bit better, but it felt a bit less natural than what I was expecting.Rob,
I'd like a Carbon version weighing 4 or 5 pounds less.
Did the motor feel any different than the Hiabike you reviewed a few months ago?
Sounds like the shifting was good.
I vote for you testing a new Ydx-Moro next
And a Kindernay too please. Lol.
Thanks for great videos.
Rob, there is no doubt you are correct.I like the 80Nm power in the lower modes (the Haibike ONLY allows it in Extra Power mode), so I appreciated having the full 80Nm on tap on steep climbs even when in mode 3 or 4.
I took a few of the stats from a Giant Product & Training Manager, here's a verbatim part of quote of some detail I was sentRob, there is no doubt you are correct.
Is "80nm power in lower modes" a Giant syncdrive spec? I cant find it in the brochures.
Thanks, I know I've heard this before, but for the life of me couldn't find it.I took a few of the stats from a Giant Product & Training Manager, here's a verbatim part of quote of some detail I was sent
"We are the only brand that can source just the motor from them and pair it with our battery of choice and importantly our own firmware. One significant difference between this and the Yamaha version is we don’t restrict the torque, 80Nm in all modes not just the top one."
The surging when not moving,They (Yamaha) need to sort out the pedal twitchiness in modes 4 and 5. I totally get the benefits of the instant torque, but other motors manage almost identical instant on performance without the twitchiness...
Once my warranty replacement wheel arrives (my trance19 OEM hub stripped the freehub threads after 4K), I will install it on the TranX, and measure the difference, between running a mullet in high mode, and a 29er in low mode.I think mulleting this bike will drop the motor too low and will result in many motor strikes.
I have not tried running in low mode yet, probably will not either as I get quite a few rock and log rolls that strike the motor.Once my warranty replacement wheel arrives (my trance19 OEM hub stripped the freehub threads after 4K), I will install it on the TranX, and measure the difference, between running a mullet in high mode, and a 29er in low mode.
For me, It's not so much about handling, as it is about spare parts and tires. I've already got the parts laying around, and an almost ridiculous collection of 27.5 tires, tubes and liners that need to be used.
I think it is not about Yamaha motor.. see f.e. Haibike or even hardtail Fathom. IMHO the limit is Maestro suspension. Lower short link connected to bottom point of rear shock forced to set the engine angle at almost horizontal...Yamaha was always a great motor. But his centered pedal axis don’t allow some geo and suspension schemes.
Cool! I've got the same bike. Took delivery of mine over a month ago and still have studded tires on it. It's been a long winter and there's still ice on our trails.Hi,
That's great, thanks for the response.
I had another blast this morning and like you say, timed well it does aid for some smooth shifting.
Mine is the middle of the range so it's the blue one as opposed to the one reviewed above.
SLX shifters and Deore XT mech.
Been riding for years so used to it all, I'd just not read about the run on and it confused me yesterday!
Used to the multiple shifting on my analogue bike, just seemed a touch clunky yesterday.
Absolutely gorgeous trails. Beautiful place to live. Jealous I am.Cool! I've got the same bike. Took delivery of mine over a month ago and still have studded tires on it. It's been a long winter and there's still ice on our trails.
Here's footage from my ride today....
Looks like an amazing part of the world. I post regularly on another forum and there is a poster on there that is from Edmonton who always posts pics. It looks a beautiful part of the world for sure.@tomhollywood and @DrStupid - I'm located in Alberta, Canada, one of three prairie provinces. The trail is in my backyard and 'I'm able to access it and many others riding the Trance to the destinations.
We’re over 3 hours drive away to the Cdn Rockies so it's nice to have these single track runs close at hand. Our winters are long up here (6 months) and I hope it won’t be much longer so I can swap the studs over to the stock knobbies.
Here's another video of a recent ride along the east side of our local tributary, the Red Deer River.
I'm new to the e-MTB scene and have been riding a vintage rigid Trek 970 up until I acquired the Trance. BTW, it’s exceeded all of my expectations and look forward to riding more trails in the summer. My riding buddy shown in the footage has been taking me around the local trails and rides a 2020 Turbo Levo Comp Carbon.
" I don't know if I'll ever go back to my old school ride."I'm about an hour drive or so south of Edmonton. I haven't had a chance to explore the trails there but I've heard that the North Saskatchewan river valley is beautiful anytime of the year. Plus he's not far from the mountains himself as Jasper Nat Park is a gorgeous spot to ride!
Like you, this is my first FS bike and it's such a departure from riding my 30 yr old Trek which sported 26" wheels. It took a while to get accustomed to the bigger bike but the torque from the Yamaha power plant is so addictive I don't know if I'll ever go back to my old school ride. Okay, maybe on those frigid days when the mercury dips to below -30C.
BTW, congrats on acquiring your Trance and I have no doubt that you'll have a great time riding the trails with it as I have.